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 Post subject: Re: so just who is letting Radford down?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:50 am 
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:Very good post. I think most would back you on just about all aspects of this. The only thing I contest is your point about having to live in Hull if you play for Hull FC. I personally don't see that as a prerequisite. If you are professional enough and the travel is not excessive then it is not an issue. The evening you quote where players were stranded on the M62 was a freak occurrence. The players were stuck between an accident and the last junction. Unless they could have prompted the tanker spilling chemicals across the motor way there was little chance of avoiding that problem.

For most professional jobs paying over 50k per annum, you would be expected to live within 20 miles of where you work (unless you was covering a large area then I don't suppose it matters), I think the players should, just my opinion

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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:Very good post. I think most would back you on just about all aspects of this. The only thing I contest is your point about having to live in Hull if you play for Hull FC. I personally don't see that as a prerequisite. If you are professional enough and the travel is not excessive then it is not an issue. The evening you quote where players were stranded on the M62 was a freak occurrence. The players were stuck between an accident and the last junction. Unless they could have prompted the tanker spilling chemicals across the motor way there was little chance of avoiding that problem.


I agree and don't think that it shouldn't be a prerequisite and such incidents like that are unusual. Perhaps though there's an argument that on game day that players living outside of Hull should be in Hull earlier in the day in order to avoid such possibilities?

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 Post subject: Re: so just who is letting Radford down?
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Tinkerman23 wrote:For most professional jobs paying over 50k per annum, you would be expected to live within 20 miles of where you work (unless you was covering a large area then I don't suppose it matters), I think the players should, just my opinion


I work in an office in Leeds. I have colleagues who earn in excess of the amount you quote who live in Hull, York and the Peak District. Should they move? They are happy to commute.

The commute from the Castleford area where many Hull players have lived in recent years is a 45 minute journey. It can take longer than that from Hedon to the KC if the traffic is against you.

Providing its not onerous, where they live is irrelevant.






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 Post subject: Re: so just who is letting Radford down?
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Doc Brown wrote:I agree and don't think that it shouldn't be a prerequisite and such incidents like that are unusual. Perhaps though there's an argument that on game day that players living outside of Hull should be in Hull earlier in the day in order to avoid such possibilities?


If you can predict an accident, you would avoid it. On that particular day in Feb 2013 for the Bradford game, if the players had set off 2 hours earlier, what's to say the tanker accident wouldn't happen two hours earlier? It was a freak event, not really anything which could be done about it.






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 Post subject: Re: so just who is letting Radford down?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:10 am 
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ccs wrote:Well, at least we can agree that AP's got one thing right.


Can we?

ccs wrote:Maybe a player or two have been disciplined for some reason or another.
It's unlikely to be made public and could easily be decribed as "letting Radford down".
Doesn't fit any conspiracy theories, though.


What conspiracy theories? All I've seen are people asking who Pearson means, and why if it's the players Radford is still coming out of it clean, given they're players he has chosen and under his charge.


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 Post subject: Re: so just who is letting Radford down?
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:If you can predict an accident, you would avoid it. On that particular day in Feb 2013 for the Bradford game, if the players had set off 2 hours earlier, what's to say the tanker accident wouldn't happen two hours earlier? It was a freak event, not really anything which could be done about it.


I'm not saying you can predict an accident and I've already agreed that it's unusual but I do feel that there is an argument that the players could have been in Hull earlier on that occasion and on match days in general. If there was say a rule in place that players were to be in Hull by say lunchtime/early afternoon on match days (based on a Friday 8pm kick off) then not only would they avoid the potential risk of getting caught in an accident close to kick off but they would also have plenty of time to still get to Hull in time for kick off if an accident occurred earlier on in the day.

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 Post subject: Re: so just who is letting Radford down?
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:I work in an office in Leeds. I have colleagues who earn in excess of the amount you quote who live in Hull, York and the Peak District. Should they move? They are happy to commute.

The commute from the Castleford area where many Hull players have lived in recent years is a 45 minute journey. It can take longer than that from Hedon to the KC if the traffic is against you.

Providing its not onerous, where they live is irrelevant.

Yes they should the cheeky !!!! To be fair I commute further, and many people will, but I do think Rugby players, playing for Hull should live here. Don't see the problem to be honest, should be expected

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 Post subject: Re: so just who is letting Radford down?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:33 am 
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We struggle to recruit as it is, to ask the players to move to Hull, when they are settled, would cause us more problems to recruit.

I don't see them living less than an hours drive away as a problem, certainly isn't causing Thomspon and Pryce any issues. We have bigger problems that this to worry about.

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 Post subject: Re: so just who is letting Radford down?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:34 am 
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Tinkerman23 wrote:Yes they should the cheeky !!!! To be fair I commute further, and many people will, but I do think Rugby players, playing for Hull should live here. Don't see the problem to be honest, should be expected
So you'd move 100 miles, say, for a 1 year contract?






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 Post subject: Re: so just who is letting Radford down?
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Tinkerman23 wrote:Yes they should the cheeky !!!! To be fair I commute further, and many people will, but I do think Rugby players, playing for Hull should live here. Don't see the problem to be honest, should be expected


It's a non-issue for me. If they are happy to commute and get there on time every day then I don't care. As someone else has already alluded to, Hull is a hard sell at the best of times. We are stuck out at the end of the M62, and the city still has a bad reputation. Not to mention our on field issues. If a player owns a house in West Yorkshire, who are we to force them to move for what might only be a year? The club could provide accommodation of course, but it's another needless expense.

Introducing a rule that means players have to live in Hull just makes recruitment even more difficult. I very much doubt Leon Pryce or Gaz Ellis (to name just two) would be here if that was the rule.

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