carl_spackler wrote:Personally, as hard as it was to consider right away, I still felt we were making progress after the Huddersfield debacle. I think there was a massive overreaction to two very painful (non-)performances, and a fairly impulsive decision made which is now costing us. IMO Pearson was impatient and possibly had his anger stoked enough to let a few bad results/performances over three months overshadow the previous year and a half of progress. He should have held firm with Gentle for the start of the next season at least, if for nothing else than to show to players that the coach had a strong position to deal with them as he then did Radford.

Isaiah wrote:I recon Pearson took a back seat in such matters, and left it all to McRae and Gentle.

carl_spackler wrote:So under Gentle it was the coach that was the problem (too soft and not capable of taking the players in hand, apparently), a new coach is given carte blanche to completely overhaul the squad as he sees fit and deal with the players with strength and discipline to get the best out of them, and now it's the players? But it's still Gentle and McRae's fault?

I must be missing something as to how this all hangs together and makes sense.

bonaire wrote:Certainly doesn't when you think Paea,Watts,Thompson and Ellis are four of our best players

ccs wrote:None of it makes sense because nobody really knows what's been going on.

Rumours and gossip become facts and there are too many on here who love to stir it up even further.

Diogenes wrote:I agree but IIRC there were rumours before we got to Wembley that Pearson planned to get rid of Gentle.

Diogenes wrote:Gentle allegedly made poor signings. Radford got rid of them and supposedly improved the squad but is achieving less than Gentle did with his inferior players. How does that work?

*1865* wrote:Was that another piece of advice from McRae though? He seemed to suddenly change his mind about it all and completely change direction. Think he became aware of things happening such as the Shaul situation and the McDonnell episode, as well as realising that certain players weren't worth the money they were being paid.

BarnetFC wrote:Tom Briscoe is paid less now at Leeds than he was here

BarnetFC wrote:It should be a blddy big deal to play for Hull. We should offer the same wage everybody else is offering and if they don't come, did we want that player anyway?

BarnetFC wrote:Every year on here I see a clamour to get contracts renewed and in some cases I can see why but in most, why do we have that? These players are achieving nothing, every year. Why the rush to get new deals handed out?

BarnetFC wrote:Why on earth would we be happy that we've rewarded Liam Watts with a new contract? He's been dog chocolate since he got here. A shadow of the player he was at HKR.

BarnetFC wrote:We have a good portion of our squad, every year, commuting in, every day, from Leeds, Bradford and Castleford. We had a game postponed last year because of a traffic accident on the M62 which meant half our starting 13 was stuck on the motorway. You're representing Hull. You should live in Hull and breathe it like the people who pay your wages. It's not a big commitment to make

BarnetFC wrote:What's needed, IMHO, is a top class, hardline, modern thinking, no-nonsense coach. A total outsider, who can bring a professional pride and culture from elsewhere (because there's none of it here) and instill it into us - as Maguire did when he arrived at Wigan. I like the 'club Hull' idea, I really do - bringing our own youngsters through is producing great talent and it's long overdue. But they're coming into this culture where mediocrity is rewarded and it's all out for light ales after training even if we've lost three on the spin. Such coaches don't come cheap, but it will cost Pearson more in the long run if he doesn't pay it now.

Problem is, cultures are deeply ingrained and difficult to change. Players difficult to shift, replacements difficult to find, good practice and standards of behaviour take time to bed down. And we don't have time, because we've pisd so much of it away and there is no good will left in the support base.

Jake the Peg wrote:I wouldn't disagree but there's no point in sacking a coach and appointing a worse one.