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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:11 am 
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Shaul can tackle. But can he pass effectively?

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 Post subject: Re: Cas Away
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shauney wrote:Shaul can tackle. But can he pass effectively?


This is where we need an attack coach... to highlight & improve weaknesses in a player's game.

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weaver93 wrote:This is where we need an attack coach... to highlight & improve weaknesses in a player's game.


It's really not. I can tell you that Shaul's passing isn't great, and I reckon I could improve it if I worked with him, but I'm certainly not a coach. It's just a case of practice and technique.

An attacking coach will look at the team as a whole, working on set plays, players roles, option runners, suppoting the ball etc. He wouldn't and shouldn't be dealing with specific skills like how to pass a ball correctly.

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shauney wrote:Shaul can tackle. But can he pass effectively?

Thank god somebody has brought this up. Shaul would be terrible at 9 for ANY amount of time for this very reason.

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totally agree, we dont want to go down the round peg square hole route imo, for me cunningham should be given a crack






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*1865* wrote:Thank god somebody has brought this up. Shaul would be terrible at 9 for ANY amount of time for this very reason.

Your obviously CORRECT as usual! Keep talking like you know everything! Hows Team Radford working for you at the minute.

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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:It's really not. I can tell you that Shaul's passing isn't great, and I reckon I could improve it if I worked with him, but I'm certainly not a coach. It's just a case of practice and technique.

An attacking coach will look at the team as a whole, working on set plays, players roles, option runners, suppoting the ball etc. He wouldn't and shouldn't be dealing with specific skills like how to pass a ball correctly.


So..

What happens if a player's technique ,ie speed & accuracy is not up to standard?

Who would be responsible to improve this facet of their game?

It shouldnt be down to the player(s) , it should be -IMO.. a coach to recognise that the skill level,is not up to the standard required.

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Tinkerman23 wrote:Your obviously CORRECT as usual! Keep talking like you know everything! Hows Team Radford working for you at the minute.


Come on surely anyone who knows the game can see Shaul isn't a hooker. Let's suppose his tackling is up to it (I don't think it is fwiw but I'll give him benefit of the doubt), being a decent hooker is about far more than just being able to run from dummy half. You need to have a good and varied passing game, you need to make decisions, call plays, preferably be able to kick a bit and to be able to do all of those things effectively you need good game awareness.

I think Rankin could potentially play there. A lot of skills that come from being a half back are transferable to hooker. Shaul would be hopeless there imo.

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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:Come on surely anyone who knows the game can see Shaul isn't a hooker. Let's suppose his tackling is up to it (I don't think it is fwiw but I'll give him benefit of the doubt), being a decent hooker is about far more than just being able to run from dummy half. You need to have a good and varied passing game, you need to make decisions, call plays, preferably be able to kick a bit and to be able to do all of those things effectively you need good game awareness.

I think Rankin could potentially play there. A lot of skills that come from being a half back are transferable to hooker. Shaul would be hopeless there imo.

Not saying hes Hooker at all, just saying I'd have him on the bench rather than Cunningham, and if he was to spell Houghton, I'm pretty certain he could cause damage to a tiring defence and follow a few simple instructions. Which im certain would be simple coming from Radford, its not like we've loads of technical attacking plays

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weaver93 wrote:So..

What happens if a player's technique ,ie speed & accuracy is not up to standard?

Who would be responsible to improve this facet of their game?

It shouldnt be down to the player(s) , it should be -IMO.. a coach to recognise that the skill level,is not up to the standard required.


It is down to coaching yes, but an attacking coach wouldn't be coming in to work one to one with a player on something like that, it's basics. Jamie Shaul knows how to pass, I'm certain about that, it just needs practice in game situations. The more involvement he has in running plays in training etc the better it will become.

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