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Folk seem to want to make judgements based on scant information. There's smacking someone and then there's handbags ... which was this? Perhaps someone in the know could tell me.
Smacking someone and he should be toast. A kerfuffle and perhaps not.
I like the program. Three blokes dicking about with cars and being laddish ...it's funny.
Clarkson is quite clever from what I can see. He seems quick-witted on the set of Top Gear when chatting with celeb drivers.
I can think of bigger dicks, far bigger.
I think some folk who hate the guy are jumping in.
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tigertot wrote:Spot on. However, rather than another spoiled, privileged, middle-aged white man abusing his advantage he will be tainted as the victim in this.
The Sin Bin. Where there is a general loathing of anyone who is middle class and has a few quid. Regardless of where they started from, how hard they have worked, or how they made their money.
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The Video Ref wrote:The Sin Bin. Where there is a general loathing of anyone who is middle class and has a few quid. Regardless of where they started from, how hard they have worked, or how they made their money.
Ooh look, another apologist for the privileged. I know exactly where he came from. We are the same age & grew up about 2 miles apart. I never mentioned class, by most measures I suppose I would be judged middle class. Being spoiled & privileged is different & is important how you use & abuse that position.
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Boulder_Dash wrote:the fact people are even bothered shows he is one of the best journalists around. If you don't like cars and want the world to be covered in rose petals then I can understand not liking him. As far as doing his job, HUGE tick in the box
His ability to do his job is irrelevant. If Wayne Rooney assaulted someone off the pitch I am sure David Cameron & various establishment toadies would be arguing for his absolution on the basis he is a great footballer. Even Clarkson would use his newspaper column to propose forgiveness.
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The Video Ref wrote:The Sin Bin. Where there is a general loathing of anyone who is middle class and has a few quid. Regardless of where they started from, how hard they have worked, or how they made their money.
Oh great, where's Standee?
I have a general loathing of anyone who appears to be "one of the lads", while conveniently omitting their private education. Stig wasn't named after Stig of the Dump, it was the name Repton schoolboys used for junior fags. He's as much a "man of the people" as Nigel Farage and equally as much a complete dick
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I have a general loathing of anyone who appears to be "one of the lads", while conveniently omitting their private education. Stig wasn't named after Stig of the Dump, it was the name Repton schoolboys used for junior fags. He's as much a "man of the people" as Nigel Farage and equally as much a complete dick
Farage is a complete dick. Clarkson does a very good job of playing the part of one on TV and he's clearly acted like a massive dick in his private life.
But bitching about Clarkson's private education makes you an even bigger dick than both of them combined. Virtually no one else on this planet will have given a seconds thought to Clarkson's education.
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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:Farage is a complete dick. Clarkson does a very good job of playing the part of one on TV and he's clearly acted like a massive dick in his private life.
But bitching about Clarkson's private education makes you an even bigger dick than both of them combined. Virtually no one else on this planet will have given a seconds thought to Clarkson's education.
I agree, trying to connect someone's behaviour with their type of education is hardly scientific. I could be wrong. Or put another way ... Why can't someone be one of the lads from any type of background? What are the qualifications to be ...'one of the lads'?
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Its possible that Clarkson is engineering his exit having milked Top Gear while he could. A few years ago as part of his contract he persuaded the BBC to hand over the major part of the rights to the Top Gear brand. A joint venture company was formed with the shares divided as Clarkson 60%, BBC 20%, Andy Wilman 20%. Having taken many millions in dividends over the years ( in excess of £15m ), Clarkson sold his shares to the BBC for £14m late last year so now has no financial interest in Top Gear apart from his presenters salary. Maybe he doesn't give a flying one now that he doesn't own it ?
Derwent wrote:Its possible that Clarkson is engineering his exit having milked Top Gear while he could. A few years ago as part of his contract he persuaded the BBC to hand over the major part of the rights to the Top Gear brand. A joint venture company was formed with the shares divided as Clarkson 60%, BBC 20%, Andy Wilman 20%. Having taken many millions in dividends over the years ( in excess of £15m ), Clarkson sold his shares to the BBC for £14m late last year so now has no financial interest in Top Gear apart from his presenters salary. Maybe he doesn't give a flying one now that he doesn't own it ?
He retained his royalties rights to previous shows and special DVD's etc (I believe), am sure the BBC will replace it with "Len McCluskey's rage on success", a series of lectures as to why having a few quid and making the most out of life is a BAD thing, we should all still be down t' pit and driving busses and be glad about it
Derwent wrote:Its possible that Clarkson is engineering his exit having milked Top Gear while he could. A few years ago as part of his contract he persuaded the BBC to hand over the major part of the rights to the Top Gear brand. A joint venture company was formed with the shares divided as Clarkson 60%, BBC 20%, Andy Wilman 20%. Having taken many millions in dividends over the years ( in excess of £15m ), Clarkson sold his shares to the BBC for £14m late last year so now has no financial interest in Top Gear apart from his presenters salary. Maybe he doesn't give a flying one now that he doesn't own it ?
He retained his royalties rights to previous shows and special DVD's etc (I believe), am sure the BBC will replace it with "Len McCluskey's rage on success", a series of lectures as to why having a few quid and making the most out of life is a BAD thing, we should all still be down t' pit and driving busses and be glad about it
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Derwent wrote:Its possible that Clarkson is engineering his exit having milked Top Gear while he could. A few years ago as part of his contract he persuaded the BBC to hand over the major part of the rights to the Top Gear brand. A joint venture company was formed with the shares divided as Clarkson 60%, BBC 20%, Andy Wilman 20%. Having taken many millions in dividends over the years ( in excess of £15m ), Clarkson sold his shares to the BBC for £14m late last year so now has no financial interest in Top Gear apart from his presenters salary. Maybe he doesn't give a flying one now that he doesn't own it ?
I doubt his thoughts went beyond filling his rather copious belly.
Also, he must be finding it harder to get into most sporty cars because of his built-in airbag ....some might say gasbag.
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