Post subject: Re: Pearson: Radford won't be sacked
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:54 pm
Ian P
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Post subject: Re: Pearson: Radford won't be sacked
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:44 pm
hokeydokey
International Star
Joined: May 07 2014 Posts: 174
What the @@@@ is going on here ? ,here we are less then a week before the start of a really tough season and already we have the moaners in full flight. Last week at wakey a fan was shouting Radford out and blaming him for the defeat??? if it was a full squad then maybe he was justified but what planet are some fans on.We all want success and god knows the loyal fans deserve some but i just cannot believe the negativity some fans persist with. Last season we could have had the best coach in the world and would have probably ended the same,IMO did the best he could with what he had and with a bit of luck could have been in the eight.This season i hope to see more progress and all we can ask for is everyone including fans to pull together and make it a great 150 th year
Post subject: Re: Pearson: Radford won't be sacked
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:01 pm
Sebasteeno
Club Coach
Joined: Aug 01 2005 Posts: 5918 Location: Definately not in the Cuddle Crew
knockersbumpMKII wrote:So IF we miss the 8 and get knocked out of the cup early doors for instance (not saying that will happen) and don't make any progress as a team relative to everyone else in the comp you think it's a good idea to stick with the same coach for a third season? Or is that what you think Pearson is effectively saying?
More what Pearson is saying than myself. Im open to Radford. He had a bad first season but also had a lot to contend with with all the poop Gentle/McRae had brought in. Im hoping hes learnt a lot from last season and as a club we will show improvements all round. I think the season will have some great highs and some really bad lows but as a whole we will improve and will make the eight and be more competitive. Im expecting a lot from Sneyd, not in a an amazing playmaker sort of way but in terms of just getting the basics right, kicking at the right time, goal kicking accuracy and I think him alone will get us into the eight
I think as a club we need to back the team for now. I know I know im the worst for it but we need to get some confidence going and by backing the team and coach we will hopefully help them achieve this.
For me, radfords entire job relies on keeping certain individuals fit, if pryce for example takes a bad knock and hes out for a while, I believe we will struggle again badly,... minnichello has to stay strong aswell for the entire season, paying big bucks and not getting him out on the pitch has cost us in previous years..... a strong start is needed, but I fear we could start average at best, hope im wrong though
Post subject: Re: Pearson: Radford won't be sacked
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:42 am
Errlee Berd
International Star
Joined: Apr 07 2013 Posts: 669
UllFC wrote:If Pearson was putting his faith in an experienced, proven coach I'd be content with the statement he has put out. But the alarming truth is we are putting our faith in an unproven coach, who's been part of the mediocre, all hype and no substance, underachieving dross that we've been served up for 7 seasons now.
Saints have appointed Cunningham for this year. Huddersfield promoted Paul Anderson. Wigan have Shaun Wane. Brian McDermott had little previous experience. Catalans have Frayssinous. Chester, Betts, Harris, Webster - all have little experience or are in their first head coach role. Powell came from the Championship.
Only Warrington have appointed a proven coach in Tony Smith, rather than promoting from within like the rest have done. This tells me that there's a lot to be had by putting a guy at the helm who understands his club top to bottom, but also that they're simply aren't a lot of 'proven' coaches available. Who realistically could we bring in? An unproven Aussie assistant?
I'm not Radford's biggest advocate by any means, but FFS get off the guys back, we haven't even started the season proper yet.
Post subject: Re: Pearson: Radford won't be sacked
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:02 am
Tinkerman23
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 20 2010 Posts: 2152
Errlee Berd wrote::CHILL:
Saints have appointed Cunningham for this year. Huddersfield promoted Paul Anderson. Wigan have Shaun Wane. Brian McDermott had little previous experience. Catalans have Frayssinous. Chester, Betts, Harris, Webster - all have little experience or are in their first head coach role. Powell came from the Championship.
Only Warrington have appointed a proven coach in Tony Smith, rather than promoting from within like the rest have done. This tells me that there's a lot to be had by putting a guy at the helm who understands his club top to bottom, but also that they're simply aren't a lot of 'proven' coaches available. Who realistically could we bring in? An unproven Aussie assistant?
I'm not Radford's biggest advocate by any means, but FFS get off the guys back, we haven't even started the season proper yet.
I Think people are just reacting to Pearsons comments, I think people are concerned that if we go the first 6,7 games without a win and are playing badly, Radfords job will still be safe! After last season, and if that was the case, it would be ridiculous. But I agree, lets give him a chance first, think Hudds game away is a great first game, think it will tell us alot about this team and how our season is going to go
Post subject: Re: Pearson: Radford won't be sacked
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:57 am
WIZEB
Player Coach
Joined: Nov 23 2009 Posts: 12809 Location: The Hamptons of East Yorkshire
For all those who can't sleep of a night, I'd advise them to take AP's latest remarks with a a pinchette of sodium chloride. In his time at the club he has told things that could be classed as untruths, under scrutiny, on possibly more than a singular occasion. But hey, relax, it's the coin from his pockets that's running the gig, so, for me at least, he's more than entitled to a little liberal license. Lose the first seven? No improvement thereafter? Don't make the eight? Head coach for 2016?
Post subject: Re: Pearson: Radford won't be sacked
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:17 am
carl_spackler
Player Coach
Joined: Feb 20 2007 Posts: 10540 Location: Hunting Gopher
Errlee Berd wrote::CHILL:
Saints have appointed Cunningham for this year. Huddersfield promoted Paul Anderson. Wigan have Shaun Wane. Brian McDermott had little previous experience. Catalans have Frayssinous. Chester, Betts, Harris, Webster - all have little experience or are in their first head coach role. Powell came from the Championship.
Only Warrington have appointed a proven coach in Tony Smith, rather than promoting from within like the rest have done. This tells me that there's a lot to be had by putting a guy at the helm who understands his club top to bottom, but also that they're simply aren't a lot of 'proven' coaches available. Who realistically could we bring in? An unproven Aussie assistant?
I'm not Radford's biggest advocate by any means, but FFS get off the guys back, we haven't even started the season proper yet.
The thing I would point out there though, is that the 5 proven successful/competitive teams that have done it all did so from a much more settled and established position. Saints, Wigan and Leeds all did it within 2 seasons of winning SL, and Hudds and Catalan were both teams making progress in and around the top 4-6. Of the other 5, Powell was arguably proven in the Championship, Betts earned his shot at SL via promotion, and Chester and Webster are at clubs allegedly at the lower end of the finances ladder. Harris is an anomaly IMO. He talks a good game, but so far I think his coaching record is pretty rubbish. I think Dr Koukash might have got a little bit carried away with splashing the cash and the 'coup' of landing a Wigan coach.
The club who were probably closest to our situation were actually Warrington, in that they were meandering along underachieving and not really threatening, and felt that they needed to make changes to get themselves on track. Interesting then that as you say, they were the ones who went out and bagged a proven coach to oversee it all.
I genuinely hope that we have a good season with Radford proving the doubters (including myself) wrong, but whether people are supportive or questioning of Radford there’s no getting away from the fact that it is a big gamble to put such an inexperienced coach in charge of such a big project.
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