Post subject: Re: Impending shock to world financial system?
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:50 pm
Ferocious Aardvark
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King Street Cat wrote:He told me to expect it next March.
So when you said "set to rise" you actually meant your mate's guess is as good as anyone's. You can't seriously believe that a decision has been taken in October to increase rates in March?
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Post subject: Re: Impending shock to world financial system?
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:50 am
King Street Cat
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Ferocious Aardvark wrote:So when you said "set to rise" you actually meant your mate's guess is as good as anyone's. You can't seriously believe that a decision has been taken in October to increase rates in March?
He sounded pretty confident about it all, to the point of selling a house they rent out pretty sharpish before it rises.
I can only go on what he's said and he moves in much more financial circles than you or I.
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Post subject: Re: Impending shock to world financial system?
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:05 am
Ferocious Aardvark
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Any decision to change interest rates is taken "on the fly", based on the very latest figures available. I don't know if your mate thinks a decision to raise rates in march has been or might even be taken the previous October, but it wasn't, and can't, be. So many things could change. It would be utterly pointless. rates MAY go up in March, or June, or whenever, the point is no decision will be made in advance and so your mate is not "in the know" about some decision secretly made, he's just making an educated guess. Just like any number of financial commentators all of whom know far more about this stuff than me.
Maybe he's just not up to date as until very recently most pundits were predicting an early rise and it is only in the last week or two that things seemingly changed and no rise is now imminent.
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Post subject: Re: Impending shock to world financial system?
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:25 am
Lord God Jose Mourinho
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King Street Cat wrote:He sounded pretty confident about it all, to the point of selling a house they rent out pretty sharpish before it rises.
I can only go on what he's said and he moves in much more financial circles than you or I.
If he was the expert you seem to be painting him as then surely he'd be making enough of a profit on renting the house that an interest rate rise would barely trouble him? Now, if he's an amateur and mot making enough profit to cover a rise then he's definitely right to get out now while he's ahead.
Post subject: Re: Impending shock to world financial system?
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:48 am
King Street Cat
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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:If he was the expert you seem to be painting him as then surely he'd be making enough of a profit on renting the house that an interest rate rise would barely trouble him? Now, if he's an amateur and mot making enough profit to cover a rise then he's definitely right to get out now while he's ahead.
I think they currently own 5 properties.
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Post subject: Re: Impending shock to world financial system?
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:32 pm
JerryChicken
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The Chief Economist at The Bank of England has today not just hinted but categorically stated that interest rates should not rise any time soon until earnings and productivity keep pace with inflation, which they are not.
Now its true that its not his decision and that he has no more knowledge of what the committee of thinkers at the BoE will decide each month than I have, or than anyone else has.
Maybe your mate will take the For Sale sign down this weekend.
Most "financial experts" are simply gambling with other peoples money and have no special inside knowledge of anything.
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Post subject: Re: Impending shock to world financial system?
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:52 am
Ferocious Aardvark
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Quote:The pound has fallen after the majority of the Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) remained against raising interest rates, according to minutes from the October meeting.
The minutes said that for most members, there was "insufficient evidence" of inflationary pressure to raise rates.
MPC members voted 7-2 to keep interest rates at a record low of 0.5%.
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Post subject: Re: Impending shock to world financial system?
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:12 am
Mugwump
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Given that the price of oil is being driven down in a deliberate attempt to hurt the Russian economy I don't think it required any "insider knowledge" to guess interest rates might possibly take a hike.
Cheap oil is a massive influence on spending and spending influences interest rates. Don't believe for one second the Bank of England hasn't been worrying it might need to raise a few fractions.
The fact that they aren't moving doesn't mean it wasn't a halfway decent guess. Cut the guy some slack.
Post subject: Re: Impending shock to world financial system?
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:41 pm
Dally
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There is a fair chance that interest rates could rise very suddenly and very sharply - if and when investors fear that we are struggling to control our deficit and debt.
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