When you get sacked on the spot,dont talk about it,and dont appeal it,you haven't forgot to put sugar in allams tea.Iam sure somebody in your position wilf can enlighten us all,so we dont get the wrong impression.
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Mild Rover wrote:Realistically, what would you (or Jake) want the council to do? Unless some knight in shining armour gives them an option, the most they can manage is a bit of sabre-rattling on your behalf, IMO. The little difference that is likely to make would be as likely to be bad as good.
IIRC if there were evidence of breach of terms of either the head lease or sub tenancy arrangements, investigations can be brought into play to review SLAs and so on, forensic audit of the SMC's accounts. Whether that's happened and/or if it's not clear-cut, the reality is that the relationship between the council and the SMC is in the shitter. As you allude to it'd be like throwing petrol on a bonfire the council don't have the resources or stomach to marshal. This is the latest in a long line of incremental pieces of damage to our club, however. Individually small, cumulatively damaging. A great sporting philanthropist with the privilege of running the stadium of the city's two biggest fanbases - you'd imagine optimising utilisation and attendances for both clubs would be a priority. Unless you have a vested interest in one of them, in which case the council dropped a bollock to start with. Oh, wait..
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Mrs Barista wrote:IIRC if there were evidence of breach of terms of either the head lease or sub tenancy arrangements, investigations can be brought into play to review SLAs and so on, forensic audit of the SMC's accounts. Whether that's happened and/or if it's not clear-cut, the reality is that the relationship between the council and the SMC is in the shitter. As you allude to it'd be like throwing petrol on a bonfire the council don't have the resources or stomach to marshal. This is the latest in a long line of incremental pieces of damage to our club, however. Individually small, cumulatively damaging. A great sporting philanthropist with the privilege of running the stadium of the city's two biggest fanbases - you'd imagine optimising utilisation and attendances for both clubs would be a priority. Unless you have a vested interest in one of them, in which case the council dropped a bollock to start with. Oh, wait..
Aye.
The big question is whether or not running that stadium is an expensive privilege. If it is then the council have to outsource the power with the responsibility, or take it on themselves.
I'm not defending Allam's use of that power, but if the SMC is running a real loss on Hull FC games and can save money by not opening a stand, without breaching their contract with the club, I can see why Allam would make that a priority. A 3 sided KC still provides ample capacity, tbf.
I think ultimately, if the smc genuinely is loss making, a new settlement will have to be reached at some point. What exactly that would be, I'm not sure - but we're unlikely to see it while Allam is on the scene.
If SMC accounts paint an unrealistically bleak picture, the council's hand is obviously much stronger.
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Drew peacock wrote:When you get sacked on the spot,dont talk about it,and dont appeal it,you haven't forgot to put sugar in allams tea.Iam sure somebody in your position wilf can enlighten us all,so we dont get the wrong impression.
Don't appeal it...what a crock of 5hit
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Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
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fc baldy wrote:Don't appeal it...what a crock of 5hit
If you get sacked on the spot unfairly,you appeal it,pearson didnt so he must have deserved it.Wilf would no doubt know the reason thats why I asked,saves all the speculation,but whatever it was allam isnt going to forget it hence him giving us a tough time.
The big question is whether or not running that stadium is an expensive privilege. If it is then the council have to outsource the power with the responsibility, or take it on themselves.
I'm not defending Allam's use of that power, but if the SMC is running a real loss on Hull FC games and can save money by not opening a stand, without breaching their contract with the club, I can see why Allam would make that a priority. A 3 sided KC still provides ample capacity, tbf.
I think ultimately, if the smc genuinely is loss making, a new settlement will have to be reached at some point. What exactly that would be, I'm not sure - but we're unlikely to see it while Allam is on the scene.
If SMC accounts paint an unrealistically bleak picture, the council's hand is obviously much stronger.
If the Allams/SMC had approached HullFC about closing the North stand for 2015, and moving fans to the new away area in the East Stand before our season tickets went on sale, I'd say that most fans would be understanding. Especially as the East/North corner is unreserved for FC games and you can argue that having the small number of away fans we get at the KC nearer the home fans might improve the atmosphere.
however if its true that this issue has just come to light, a good couple of months after passes have gone on sale, it yet again smacks of being a petty move intended to cause disruption.
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Drew peacock wrote:When you get sacked on the spot,dont talk about it,and dont appeal it,you haven't forgot to put sugar in allams tea.Iam sure somebody in your position wilf can enlighten us all,so we dont get the wrong impression.
Pearson sued Allam and the case was settled at a mediation. The settlement was subject to a confidentiality agreement.
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Drew peacock wrote:If you get sacked on the spot unfairly,you appeal it,pearson didnt so he must have deserved it.Wilf would no doubt know the reason thats why I asked,saves all the speculation,but whatever it was allam isnt going to forget it hence him giving us a tough time.
Drew peacock wrote:If you get sacked on the spot unfairly,you appeal it,pearson didnt so he must have deserved it.Wilf would no doubt know the reason thats why I asked,saves all the speculation,but whatever it was allam isnt going to forget it hence him giving us a tough time.
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