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 Post subject: Re: Scottish Referendum
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:17 pm 
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Chris28 wrote:I can't see anything in the text that states it can't be repealed or amended at some point before that, and acts of parliament can be changed when the flavour of government changes anyway. That clause about the committee suggests that it is a review of the operation of the act that must happen (if the act is still law) no earlier than 2020.

Its a moot point anyway, I can't see any government giving up the chance for 5 years in power once they have it.


It can't be repealed until the review & a vote. The HoL wanted an amendment whereby the Act did not have to be accepted by a new parliament following an election. This was knocked back, with the trade off being the 2020 review.

In June this year Lord Grocott sponsored a private members bill to repeal the Act. Won't get anywhere until the review.

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 Post subject: Re: Scottish Referendum
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:24 pm 
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Big Graeme wrote:This government can not bind the next to any legislation, that clause in the act would have been blown out of the water by any decent brief.


Yes it can, and it has. That's because the HoL amendment to the Bill to include a clause where a new parliament could drop the Act was rejected. Instead, this is where the 2020 review was introduced to the Bill. There will be 2 fixed 5 year terms before the Act can be repealed or amended.

Once the 2020 election has been held the Act can be amended repealed in readiness for the 2025 election.

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 Post subject: Re: Scottish Referendum
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:36 am 
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Parliament can repeal any Act at any time.

All that part of the Act does is say there must be a committee setup at the specified time to make recommendations on the Act.

Parliament can still repeal the Act if it wished to.

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 Post subject: Re: Scottish Referendum
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:21 am 
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Him wrote:Parliament can repeal any Act at any time.

All that part of the Act does is say there must be a committee setup at the specified time to make recommendations on the Act.

Parliament can still repeal the Act if it wished to.

dweeb doesn't seem to understand basic politics/government.

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 Post subject: Re: Scottish Referendum
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:25 am 
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Standee wrote:dweeb doesn't seem to understand basic politics/government.

Or the law






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 Post subject: Re: Scottish Referendum
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:27 am 
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Chris28 wrote:Or the law

yup

but, other than that, got it covered :READING:

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 Post subject: Re: Scottish Referendum
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:29 am 
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I'm not really up on politics, but I've heard talk of a Federal State, not just the home nations but regions of England also (as they're all effectively the same size or bigger than the rest of the home nations anyway).

Again, not really being a follower of what happens politically, what would this mean? If (as an example) the 9 regions of England plus the 3 remaining home nations were to comprise of the first 12 states of the UK, would they all have their own governments and laws, similar to USA? Would that be a good thing?






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 Post subject: Re: Scottish Referendum
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:25 pm 
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No, stupid idea






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 Post subject: Re: Scottish Referendum
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Starbug wrote:No, stupid idea

It probably is, like I say I don't really get politics. But maybe you could be a bit more co structure here...






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 Post subject: Re: Scottish Referendum
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Wellsy13 wrote:It probably is, like I say I don't really get politics. But maybe you could be a bit more co structure here...


The sheer size of the US demands the way they operate, similarily Australia, we just dont need it






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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
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Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
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On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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