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Standee wrote:to be fair, she can hardly form a coherent sentence, it seems SA is about as messed up as it can be legally
Well, if I were in position of legal power in SA, I wouldn't be happy with this circus being played out to the world and at the end of it all being such an embarrassment to the system.
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Stand-Offish wrote:Well, if I were in position of legal power in SA, I wouldn't be happy with this circus being played out to the world and at the end of it all being such an embarrassment to the system.
I agree, the whole thing appears to be a sham.
They were (apparently) alone in the house, she went to the toilet, and locked herself in, he shot 4 times through the door, sorry, but I think he's guilty of murder, she is dead, he fired the gun.
If it had been a black guy in Soweto he'd be serving life by now, not having fights in nightclubs.
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Richie wrote:...However it's to some extent understandable, in a country that has a murder rate over 30 times higher than the UK does, that Pistroius could have a fear for his life if he thought an intruder had broken into the house.
There's fear and there's fear. If he saw some guy coming towards him that would be more understandable. And specifically it was one leg (sorry!) of his Defence that he genuinely believed that there was such a threat to his life and hence did not have the intention unlawfully to kill anyone. This defence would have succeeded if the judge had found that he'd genuinely believed that his life was in danger. However if you recall, Pistorius breathtakingly changed his defence horse half way through and claimed a second defence of "involuntary action".Basically, he ended up shooting but didn't somehow do it as a voluntary action. This was also rightly rejected.
The point being, it doesn't really matter whether you fear your life is in danger, if what you're saying is you never consciously or intentionally shot the gun at all, it just sort of inexplicably happened.
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5 years in the Big House. Good result for the defence team.
*Well 10 months in the Big House followed by house arrest. Still, her parents believe justice has been done and I suppose there the most important ones.
WIZEB wrote:5 years in the Big House. Good result for the defence team.
*Well 10 months in the Big House followed by house arrest. Still, her parents believe justice has been done and I suppose there the most important ones.
im sure they do considering the blood money they received from him
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They said he didn't have a leg to stand on, but it was no walk in the park for the prosecution, and it is probably the first case where the defence had more legs than the defendant. I think the judge has gone out on a limb with his sentence, though.
If he does spend 4 years under "house arrest" then I would advise any lady visitors to bring a she-wee and a bedpan.
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Ferocious Aardvark wrote:They said he didn't have a leg to stand on, but it was no walk in the park for the prosecution, and it is probably the first case where the defence had more legs than the defendant. I think the judge has gone out on a limb with his sentence, though.
No doubt you'll come up with some BS defence of yourself, but that's completely out of order.
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