FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home The Sin Bin Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 80 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:36 pm 
International Star
Junior Player

Joined: Dec 01 2013
Posts: 210
The Video Ref wrote:Price elasticity of supply and demand.

Cost of rental properties in Hull went sky-high when the floods hit back in 07.

I had an empty 4 bedroom rental property during this period and several people who had been flooded enquired about it.

As it was a good property in a nice area, and people were fighting over it, I got offers of £850 a month, compared with my original advertised price of £650 a month.

Very much like the housing market in decent areas of London, where if you have a decent property there will be a bidding war and you will exceed your original asking price.


There's nothing wrong with what Jewson are doing, however, there'll be a reckoning at some point. Back during one of the fuel strikes an enterprising young man decided that petrol could be flogged far more expensively than normal, which is fine as long as a ) you have an endless supply and b ) the strike lasts forever. He didn't, it didn't. He went bust soon after.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:03 pm 
International Star
Junior Player

Joined: Dec 01 2013
Posts: 210
Mintball wrote:As non sequiturs go, that's spectacular.

Awww, shucks, thanks!.

Quote:A slight point: a vast amount of this winter's flooding and damage has been caused by the sea, not just record levels of rain.
Indeed, however, the sea constantly batters our coastline, the natural and man made flood defences do a pretty good year round job of keeping us fairly dry, but there's always that chance that the water being pulled just a bit like that will mean it is able to get through just there.
Quote:Yes, electoral considerations may intervene, but the example of the Netherlands is entirely legitimate as one of showing that, irrespective of the political differences of different governments (there have been prime ministers from three different Dutch parties since 1980 as an example), if the political will is there, long-term planning and long-term action can occur.
The Netherlands had/has little choice but to invest in flood defences, something like 50% of the country is less than 1m above sea level, which is fine if you're land locked and miles from water, not so much if you're a coastal country.
Quote:Successive governments have apparently had scientists warning of what was going to happen, but have chosen to fiddle while the floods become more frequent.
Have floods become more frequent, or are they now just being noticed because houses now stand where once was uninhabited land. I don't often agree with Monbiot, but trees make a hell of a difference, and looking at the aerial shots of the flooded areas there's a lack of those to soak up water.
Quote:We need some sort of consensus, across all parties, on what needs to be done, because there's no indication that these are simply "freak events", as Owen Paterson likes to characterise them. One would think that that would be common sense.

They're not freak events in so much that parts of the country has flooded since the year dot, and will continue to do so, what we have now though are pictures of people up to their knees in water dumbfounded that the lovely house they bought in the country with the river at the end of the garden could end up like this.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:14 pm 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: May 25 2002
Posts: 37704
Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
After all the rainfall and floods, it looks like we now have to be aware of the threat from giant swans

Image






The older I get, the better I was

Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."

cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:18 pm 
Club Coach
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Feb 18 2006
Posts: 18610
Location: Somewhere in Bonny Donny (Twinned with Krakatoa in 1883).
That's just an example of swan upping.






War does not determine who is right - only who is left.

Thank God I'm an atheist.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:34 pm 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels
User avatar

Joined: Oct 19 2003
Posts: 17898
Location: Packed like sardines, in a tin
Stand-Offish wrote:That's just an example of swan upping.

Surely swan-upmanship?






2005 Challenge Cup

To reconcile respect with practicality, what is the optimum speed for a hearse?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:21 pm 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels
User avatar

Joined: Mar 08 2002
Posts: 26578
Location: On the set of NEDS...
BobbyD wrote:The Netherlands had/has little choice but to invest in flood defences, something like 50% of the country is less than 1m above sea level, which is fine if you're land locked and miles from water, not so much if you're a coastal country.


Erm, who's landlocked and miles from water?






Image


ebay's Rugby League Bargains ¦ Boost Your eBay Sales ¦ Recommended Amazon Stuff ¦ Get a Free Ink Cart!!! ¦ Quins RL T-Shirts, BRAND NEW DESIGNS

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:26 pm 
International Star
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Jul 09 2012
Posts: 3605
Location: Leeds
cod'ead wrote:After all the rainfall and floods, it looks like we now have to be aware of the threat from giant swans

Image


There is a small bald man sitting inside that swan, peddling like mad you can just see the top of his head above its folded wing.






Someday everything is gonna be different, when I paint my masterpiece
----------------------------------------------------------
Online art gallery, selling original landscape artwork
----------------------------------------------------------
JerryChicken - The Blog
----------------------------------------------------------

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:01 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach

Joined: Nov 23 2009
Posts: 12749
Location: The Hamptons of East Yorkshire
JerryChicken wrote:There is a small bald man sitting inside that swan, peddling like mad you can just see the top of his head above its folded wing.


Can't you see all them callous asylum seekers leering out of that top flat window hatching a plan to trap then BBQ one of her majestys beautiful swans?

Evil bastads, I tell thee!!! :twisted:

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:08 am 
All Time Great
All Time Great
User avatar

Joined: May 10 2002
Posts: 47951
Location: Die Metropole
BobbyD wrote:Awww, shucks, thanks!


My pleasure entirely.

BobbyD wrote:Indeed, however, the sea constantly batters our coastline, the natural and man made flood defences do a pretty good year round job of keeping us fairly dry, but there's always that chance that the water being pulled just a bit like that will mean it is able to get through just there.


However, such extreme events are becoming more regular – and this winter's tidal surges were so severe as to destroy or damage many defences.

BobbyD wrote:The Netherlands had/has little choice but to invest in flood defences, something like 50% of the country is less than 1m above sea level, which is fine if you're land locked and miles from water, not so much if you're a coastal country...


The point remains: there has been and remains a political consensus on maintaining that situation – and improving it. We have had successive governments, irrespective of the work of their own scientists, routinely cutting spending or ignoring the need to improve defences, infrastructure etc, on the grounds of political expediency and nothing else.

BobbyD wrote:Have floods become more frequent, or are they now just being noticed because houses now stand where once was uninhabited land...


Yes, I think they have. We've always had occasional freak weather, but what is happening now is that is becoming more regular – and not just more regular, but in more places at one time or over a short period of time.

We have, in effect, lost any sense of the seasons: we have no idea what's coming next or when – and this has increasingly been the case for several years.

BobbyD wrote:... I don't often agree with Monbiot, but trees make a hell of a difference, and looking at the aerial shots of the flooded areas there's a lack of those to soak up water.


I'd treat Monbiot with some care: most deforestation in the UK didn't happen recently, but in Medieval times. And on his argument that, if you look at the map and see the number of places that are called 'forest' but have no trees, he's historically inaccurate, since 'forest' also more generally meant 'hunting area', for instance.

There is an issue with current farming methods and compacted soil, but again, it's far from being the only issue.

BobbyD wrote:They're not freak events in so much that parts of the country has flooded since the year dot, and will continue to do so, what we have now though are pictures of people up to their knees in water dumbfounded that the lovely house they bought in the country with the river at the end of the garden could end up like this.


As I said above, the frequency with which such events are occurring is increasing. And looking at many of the houses we see in pictures of flooded areas, these are not developments that have all been built in the last 20 years.






"You are working for Satan." Kirkstaller

"Dare to know!" Immanuel Kant

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" Elbert Hubbard

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde

The Voluptuous Manifesto – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Flooding in Tory voting areas ends the era of austerity
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:10 am 
All Time Great
All Time Great
User avatar

Joined: May 10 2002
Posts: 47951
Location: Die Metropole
Big Graeme wrote:Erm, who's landlocked and miles from water?


I think he's saying that it's okay to have land below sea level if you're landlocked. But then neither are we, which is what destroys his point.






"You are working for Satan." Kirkstaller

"Dare to know!" Immanuel Kant

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" Elbert Hubbard

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde

The Voluptuous Manifesto – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 80 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next





It is currently Sun Dec 01, 2024 12:26 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 84 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Sun Dec 01, 2024 12:26 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Dave K.
6
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5892
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
Smiffy27
3555
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2635
Recent
Planning for next season
Septimius Se
190
Recent
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Deadcowboys1
9
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Tarquin Fueg
4059
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40834
2m
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
2m
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Dave K.
6
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63299
2m
Mike Cooper podcast
Smiffy27
20
2m
New signings
Murphy
12
2m
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Deadcowboys1
9
2m
Salford
ninearches
64
2m
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Dave K.
6
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Smiffy27
20
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Dave K.
6
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5892
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
Smiffy27
3555
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2635
Recent
Planning for next season
Septimius Se
190
Recent
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Deadcowboys1
9
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Tarquin Fueg
4059
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40834
2m
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
2m
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Dave K.
6
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63299
2m
Mike Cooper podcast
Smiffy27
20
2m
New signings
Murphy
12
2m
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Deadcowboys1
9
2m
Salford
ninearches
64
2m
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Dave K.
6
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Smiffy27
20
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.