In any fair world, simply being a tory, never mind a member of the most repressive and inhuman government for 200 years, should be a capital offence.

Section 5 Public Order Act - a nice little catch all for our police force. I've seen plenty of people on those police TV shows arrested and charged for swearing at police. Just wondered how a member of the Cabinet got away with it.

But like you say, he's the innocent party in all this now.

Exactly. Just off out to swear at police and (possibly) call them plebs. See you in a bit.

Heard plenty about what he didn't say, any chance of getting to know what he did say? Nah thought not.

That most pertinent of facts has been well buried by his PR team now, they played a blinder and various police representatives have done the rest in an exercise of self destruction and distraction techniques.

It does make you wonder where the real evidence is buried, maybe David Cameron is keeping the tapes in a desk drawer to be removed and waved around whenever Thrasher gets a bit too bolshy ?

In the best traditions of Whitehall bollox, the smart money is on Mitchell getting the EU Commissioner's gig

Bottom line is the cops tried to fit Mitchell up. Several police now facing disciplinary action and possible criminal charges.

Many people who sided (either expressly or by implication) with the police version of events now eating large helpings of humble pie.

The worrying thing is, if they can do this to the Chief Whip, what can they do to the average man in the street?

Not the same at all. You still cannot bring yourself to admit that Mitchell just might be innocent.



No wrong again. I called them liars when the evidence was in the public domain.
1. One police officer sent an email falsely stating he was a member of the public and had witnessed the confrontation at the gates. A journalist tracked down the email and traced the address and found the officer. He has been arrested. Are you saying he didn't tell a lie?
2. The three Police Federation representatives told lies to the TV cameras. The meeting was taped and the transcript shows they lied?



Your character assassination was based, like most of your other opinions, on internet anti Tory tittle tattle rather than solid evidenced backed reports. Mitchell gave good reasons for not making an official complaint which would have led to several officers in his constituency losing their jobs. He may well have to go down that route to get justice.




So come on now is it a yes or a no to my question?



I think you know full well what I mean. The 3 police Federation officers made a statement on national TV news immediately after the meeting with Mitchell that was plainly not true. The proof was in the transcript which was made from the tapes that Mitchell made at the meeting.

Once again weasel words. For you to say "probably misleading" is again the understatement of the year. It was misleading without a doubt and if it were deliberately so these three would have committed gross misconduct and would be sacked.

These same three officers also gave evidence to the MP's committee that was "misleading and possible deliberately so" according to the chairman of the committee. One of them told a lie to the committee with regard to his own disciplinary record and 2 of them have been summoned back to correct the records.




Now why has this had to be dragged out of you?

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So this comment is supposed to show your even handedness is it? You keep repeating that Mitchell has admitted swearing at the police which is quite wrong. He has admitted using a swear word as an adjective which is quite different. He did not use an insulting name, as you so often do.

But even if he had done what you say, this still cannot be compared with the really really serious crime of police telling lies, and of police mounting a political camapign against an elected MP and cabinet minister, and of police fabricating evidence, and of a possible conspiracy and police cover up and lying to a committee of MP's

For you to totally ignore these very serious allegations yet choose to make out swearing is worse makes your standpoint laughable.

What you are choosing to ignore is this is just the latest chapter in a sorry on-going tale of police woe. We know that there is a deep rooted section in our police forces that is happy to fabricate evidence, tell lies and then more lies to cover up police crimes. This goes right to the top in many cases where police investigating police turns out to be a white wash.

So why doesn't he state exactly what he DID say that night, that would clear everything up nicely.

Wrong. If you study the transcript of Mitchell's meeting with the 3 police Federation officers you will see he answered every one of their questions for 40 minutes. What else is there to know in a 40 second 2 way confrontation at the gates. And if there was anything else relevant why didn't the 3 police officers ask him? Mitchell gave also given a detailed account in the Sunday Times. All this is a smoke screen brought up by the anty-Tory brigade.

Why do you keep mentioning Mitchell's PR team. Do you somehow resent that he is putting up a good defence against the allegations. I do not remember you mentioning the police Federation PR team and their political campaign against Mitchell.

Your continued boring and irrelevant attempts to have a go at the PM on every occassion and your odd theory about missing tapes. Has it still not sunk in that if there were other tapes made then the police would have used them by now had these mythical tapes supported their case. So if your "missing tapes" are being hidden it would be by the police and if they are hiding them you would logically assume it was because it proved Mitchell to be innocent of the "pleb" allegations.