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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:20 pm 
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Big Graeme wrote:As long as the two can be compared then it doesn't make much difference ...

It's better than not being able to compare, which was the case earlier.
But fruit grow to different sizes ... only supermarkets demand that they are the same size.

Big Graeme wrote:... don't oranges get sold individually when loose anyway?

Yes, but they charge by weight at the checkout.
Charging by weight has been considered fair since time immemorial.






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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:28 pm 
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El Barbudo wrote:Yes, but they charge by weight at the checkout.


Ah, there be a problem then.

We've always bought large oranges, lemons and limes as single items, selling by weight just doesn't seem right.






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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:33 am 
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Big Graeme wrote:Ah, there be a problem then.
We've always bought large oranges, lemons and limes as single items, selling by weight just doesn't seem right.

Well, there's large and there's slightly larger, even as single items, so selling by weight overcomes that issue.
Of course, supermarkets demand unrealistic uniformity of size/shape/colour etc which does lend itself to unit pricing but that's a sort of circular justification.

When I buy pork chops, the butcher slaps them on a bit of paper to show me them, I say yes that's the size and quality I want, then he weighs them and tells me the price, I say say yes and we conclude the transaction.

In one of the local greengrocers' here, they sell their apples loose and they vary greatly in size (and shape and colour) ... so, sensibly, they sell 'em by weight.
They go a bit further ... and TBH I'm only 50-50 on this one ... their eating apples, of whatever variety, are all priced the same per kilo so they don't need to put plastic varietal-name stickers on them, you choose them from the box and they just weigh them.






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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:13 am 
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El Barbudo wrote:
When I buy pork chops, the butcher slaps them on a bit of paper to show me them, I say yes that's the size and quality I want, then he weighs them and tells me the price, I say say yes and we conclude the transaction.

In one of the local greengrocers' here, they sell their apples loose and they vary greatly in size (and shape and colour) ... so, sensibly, they sell 'em by weight.
They go a bit further ... and TBH I'm only 50-50 on this one ... their eating apples, of whatever variety, are all priced the same per kilo so they don't need to put plastic varietal-name stickers on them, you choose them from the box and they just weigh them.


Yes but you live in a well known Socialist enclave hippy community with your sandals and beards, picture houses and incantations & spell shops, you can't expect all of us to live that way, we need bags of apples with one price, "Apples, £1" that sort of thing, it doesn't matter what sort of f**kin apples they are as long as they don't have worms in them and growing them in plastic bags prevents all that sort of hassle.






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 Post subject: Re: Half price
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:01 am 
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JerryChicken wrote:Yes but you live in a well known Socialist enclave hippy community with your sandals and beards, picture houses and incantations & spell shops, you can't expect all of us to live that way, we need bags of apples with one price, "Apples, £1" that sort of thing, it doesn't matter what sort of f**kin apples they are as long as they don't have worms in them and growing them in plastic bags prevents all that sort of hassle.

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Aye, but suburbs like yours are ripe territory for change for the better.
BTW, I was over your way (well Ilkley, that's near isn't it? :wink: ) ... a throbbing foodie enclave with proper butchers and all the rest of it.
What with them and the self-styled poshies of Harrogate encroaching on you from the North and Chapel Allerton/Chapeltown from the South, you'll be surrounded by real food, it'll be like the Dad's Army map soon ... "Don't panic, Mr Mainwaring, we can still get plastic apples from Sainsbury's".

BTW, it's not so much a socialist enclave round here, it's more of a "if they leave us alone we'll just ignore them" sort of place.
Our MP is a Tory, one of the modern-chancer-bastard-spiv-market-forces-spouter breed ... I can't imagine he got many votes in this part of his constituency.
Mind you, crystal healing services and hopi ear-candle selling are already privatised, so he might have some support there.






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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:22 am 
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To illustrate how convoluted things are - and presumably therefore why supermarkets get away with it so much - I just looked purely at random at current Tesco half price offers and the one I picked was 350g Cathedral City cheese, "was £4.50 now £2.25".

A quick search at mysupermarket finds that the same product is indeed £4.50 at Waitrose.
At Sainsbury's it is the same price but you can get 2 for £6
And at Asda the price (not reduced) is £2

And so, you can argue that yes in a way it is half price, and yet clearly you aren't, to me, saving yourself £2.25, not really, and indeed the half price is seemingly more than the Asda full price. So everybody's right.






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 Post subject: Re: Half price
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:54 pm 
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I work for Debenhams, and we have a fair amount of products that are always marked as 50% off, these things get rolled onto the shop floor during a sale, making the customers think that they really ARE 50% off, even though they're NEVER on sale for the 'full' price.

Downright fibs really, to be honest

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:03 am 
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Well, someone must be reading this thread ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23797882
Well, someone must be reading this thread ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23797882






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Never understand how furniture places even bother advertising things on offer when we all know that this piece of crap suite has never been £1400 and the "special offer price of £400" is just what it costs, never even look at the special offer marks on anything, a quick google search will find you the same item cheaper online and not in a sale.






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100% Wire wrote:I work for Debenhams, and we have a fair amount of products that are always marked as 50% off, these things get rolled onto the shop floor during a sale, making the customers think that they really ARE 50% off, even though they're NEVER on sale for the 'full' price.

Downright fibs really, to be honest


I have it on good authority that Next actually produce clothing especially for their 'sale' so the garments with '50% off' have always been designed to be cheap and nasty and sold at the sale price.

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