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toast wrote:Bi polar is not an illness, it's an excuse for people feeling sorry for themselves. Same as under active thyroid gland for fat people, that's just an over active jawbone for fatties who eat too much.
An underactive thyroid gland is objectively diagnosed, though. TSH (a hormone) stimulates the thyroid into making thyroxine. If the level of thyroxine in the blood is low, then the pituitary releases more TSH to try to stimulate the thyroid gland to make more thyroxine. So, if blood tests show a raised level of TSH, this proves, medically, beyond doubt, that the thyroid gland is underactive and is not making enough thyroxine.
Blood tests can also directly measure the level of T4 thyroxine, and again, a low level of T4 confirms an underactive thyroid ("hypothyroidism").
These hormones are extremely important for the regulation of the body's metabolism, and hence the very direct (and bleedin obvious) link to weight gain (or loss).
Hyperthyroidism is the opposite. Again, the same blood tests confirm the diagnosis, objectively.
Treatments aim to change the thyroxine level to normal. The level isn't a matter of opinion, but measurable fact.
Someone else has already shown you up re bi-polar so I won't add to your shame.
toast wrote:Cut out all this pc bullshit and say things as they really are.
I just did, but OK, here goes. Far from being a "myth", these are extremely well-known disorders, one autoimmune , one psychiatric, and only an utter plank, or a troll, would make such an idiotic post. Of course, you have no personal experience of someone who is bi-polar, whereas many on here have. You ought to try to learn a little humility and accept that actually, you know feck all about these subjects, which wouldn't be so bad, if you weren't also being such a rude and aggressive toilet on top of your ignorance, but sadly you are.
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easthullwesty wrote:As someone in a relationship with someone diagnosed with Bi-polar one, (look it up, assuming your ignorance allows you to use the internet and books) I cannot tell you how wrong you are. She has 5-6 episodes a year, and they are incredibly testing times. I consider her lucky in that its very rare for her mania to be followed by depression. Im trying to think of a suitable insult for you, but to be honest, you just aren't worth it. My partner is worth ten of you.
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Mintball wrote:We know a family where one partner is bi-polar (I'm afraid I don't know any further definition). That means episodes as you describe, which have included suicide attempts. They're incredibly lucky to have a remarkably tolerant partner and employer. But as you rightly stress, it's far from some sort of self-indulgent behaviour.
Its such a complex illness which is part of the problem. Partly psychological, partly physical and as such its so hard to pin down. Like I said, she (and I) are very lucky that her mania episodes rarely fall into depression. Infact, when she is having an epsiode (apart from being a major pain ) shes the most incredibly driven person. So driven and productive. Its a part of her personality that thrills as much as it hurts. Im trying to think of a way to say this that doesn't sound strange, but in a way, her episodes and how she deals with them, make me want to be better and do more than I would otherwise do. One of the many many things I love her for.
For that idiot to say that its an excuse for people to feel sorry for themselves should come and live with us for a month!!
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easthullwesty wrote:Its such a complex illness which is part of the problem. Partly psychological, partly physical and as such its so hard to pin down. Like I said, she (and I) are very lucky that her mania episodes rarely fall into depression. Infact, when she is having an epsiode (apart from being a major pain ) shes the most incredibly driven person. So driven and productive. Its a part of her personality that thrills as much as it hurts. Im trying to think of a way to say this that doesn't sound strange, but in a way, her episodes and how she deals with them, make me want to be better and do more than I would otherwise do. One of the many many things I love her for.
For that idiot to say that its an excuse for people to feel sorry for themselves should come and live with us for a month!!
That's an absolutely top post and pretty much echoes the kind of sentiments that the non-bi-polar partner in the couple we know would say.
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A colleague of mine has a wife who is bi-polar. he came back one day to find her basically hanging and he says he was fortunate because she was small and not heavy he was able to hold her up and get the noose off.
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) shes the most incredibly driven person. So driven and productive. Its a part of her personality that thrills as much as it hurts. Im trying to think of a way to say this that doesn't sound strange, but in a way, her episodes and how she deals with them, make me want to be better and do more than I would otherwise do. One of the many many things I love her for.
