FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home The Sin Bin Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 613 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46 ... 62  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:26 am 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels
User avatar

Joined: Feb 26 2002
Posts: 14522
Location: Online
samwire wrote:most of it it done with lovely private money. funny how burnham never had a problem with private finance before, much like many people round here. hypocrisy rules it seems. not you obviously, you love the way the swedes have shipped their health service out to the private sector.

PFI may have provided bricks and mortar for the NHS ... but not the extra doctors (remember the 70 hours-a-week junior doctors back then? ... probably not, you probably weren't born then), not the extra nurses, not the reductions in waiting time for A and E and Cancer treatment etc etc.
You need to learn the difference between PFI and the privatisation of treatment.






Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice.
Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:39 pm 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: May 25 2002
Posts: 37704
Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
And so it continues

Private call handler Harmoni (owned by Care UK) have been sending ambulances to deliver painkillers etc. In fact the South West Ambulance Service (the pilot) have seen an increase in emergency calls, many funnelled to them by Harmoni.

Yet another tory cost saving exercise that will end up costing the NHS more and leaving less for care & treatment
And so it continues

Private call handler Harmoni (owned by Care UK) have been sending ambulances to deliver painkillers etc. In fact the South West Ambulance Service (the pilot) have seen an increase in emergency calls, many funnelled to them by Harmoni.

Yet another tory cost saving exercise that will end up costing the NHS more and leaving less for care & treatment






The older I get, the better I was

Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."

cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:10 am 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: May 25 2002
Posts: 37704
Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
Thanks to The Kings Fund for a simple animation explaining how the NHS is being reorganised

"No top-down reorganisation" and "cutting red tape and beaurocracy"? Don't make me laugh
Thanks to The Kings Fund for a simple animation explaining how the NHS is being reorganised

"No top-down reorganisation" and "cutting red tape and beaurocracy"? Don't make me laugh






The older I get, the better I was

Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."

cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:16 am 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: May 25 2002
Posts: 37704
Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
Happy 65th birthday NHS.

Please don't allow these tory bastads to retire you just yet, there's plenty more years left in you.






The older I get, the better I was

Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."

cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:09 pm 
Player Coach
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Feb 23 2006
Posts: 1978
cod'ead wrote:Happy 65th birthday NHS.

Please don't allow these tory bastads to retire you just yet, there's plenty more years left in you.


You posted on April 1st, 'RIP NHS' but it is still here. Are you going to repeat this football supporter politics style sensationalist rubbish every few months?!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:22 pm 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: May 25 2002
Posts: 37704
Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
Ajw71 wrote:You posted on April 1st, 'RIP NHS' but it is still here. Are you going to repeat this football supporter politics style sensationalist rubbish every few months?!


I wonder who you got that line from? :lol: :lol: :lol:






The older I get, the better I was

Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."

cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:11 pm 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels
User avatar

Joined: Feb 26 2002
Posts: 14522
Location: Online
Ajw71 wrote:You posted on April 1st, 'RIP NHS' but it is still here. Are you going to repeat this football supporter politics style sensationalist rubbish every few months?!

What is your opinion about the changes to the NHS and why?






Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice.
Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:19 pm 
International Chairman
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Jun 19 2002
Posts: 14970
Location: Campaigning for a deep attacking line
El Barbudo wrote:What is your opinion about the changes to the NHS and why?

Oooh this will be interesting. Will Ajw disappear like Sal does?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:22 pm 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels
User avatar

Joined: Feb 26 2002
Posts: 14522
Location: Online
El Barbudo, addressing Ajw71, wrote:What is your opinion about the changes to the NHS and why?

No opinion then?






Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice.
Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:29 pm 
International Star
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Jul 09 2012
Posts: 3605
Location: Leeds
We've been here before with the mis-reporting of statistics at the Leeds Childrens Heart Surgery Dept over the Easter period, mis-reporting driven by an enquiry with a pre-determined conclusion that was so poorly constructed that despite having cost a couple of million pounds was severely criticised by a high court judge and scrapped in its entirety, at the time the Medical Director of the NHS, Sir Bruce Keogh, who initially ordered the immediate suspension of the unit on the strength of the incorrect stats, then stood up and took on the chin the fact that his committee had mis-led him and declared the heart unit no worse, no better than any other in the country - when the correct stats were taken into account.

Well now its happened again and once again Sir Bruce Keogh is going to be forced (probably tomorrow) to heavily criticise news media reporting on extrapolated statistics, quoting as hard facts something that a statistician has used as a "what if" model.

Original Telegraph story here The original story being that 13,000 patients HAVE died needlessly since 2005, a claim which the current government has used to have a pop at the previous incumbents, side-stepping the fact that the numbers have not decreased in the three years of their governing.


What Sir Bruce Keogh is ACTUALLY saying is reported here and whilst he is keeping his tinder dry for another day its fairly obvious that once again he has been seriously mis-quoted, and once again its embarrassed him and his department.


You have to ask yourself why - why do seemingly sensible reporters and editors take a decision to extrapolate tiny chunks of data from huge and complex reports and present them in a sensational manner, making a story where a story does not exist in order to score political points for a party currently in power - is this another example of an extremely compliant media doing the governments propaganda work - and making a bloody good job of it in the process, far better than any government press office could do ?


How much more attacking of the NHS can the NHS stand before, as suggested in that second link, the current incumbents will appear to be doing us all a favour to put the NHS down for its own good like a sick old dog - and how much reporting will be done on Sir Bruce Keogh's denial of the sensational story, this will be the true test, how will The Telegraph report Sir Bruces denial of their "facts" and will Labour grow some balls and shut the clamour for their own heads to roll by pointing out that the mis-reporting seems to have initiated on the other side of the Commons ?
We've been here before with the mis-reporting of statistics at the Leeds Childrens Heart Surgery Dept over the Easter period, mis-reporting driven by an enquiry with a pre-determined conclusion that was so poorly constructed that despite having cost a couple of million pounds was severely criticised by a high court judge and scrapped in its entirety, at the time the Medical Director of the NHS, Sir Bruce Keogh, who initially ordered the immediate suspension of the unit on the strength of the incorrect stats, then stood up and took on the chin the fact that his committee had mis-led him and declared the heart unit no worse, no better than any other in the country - when the correct stats were taken into account.

Well now its happened again and once again Sir Bruce Keogh is going to be forced (probably tomorrow) to heavily criticise news media reporting on extrapolated statistics, quoting as hard facts something that a statistician has used as a "what if" model.

Original Telegraph story here The original story being that 13,000 patients HAVE died needlessly since 2005, a claim which the current government has used to have a pop at the previous incumbents, side-stepping the fact that the numbers have not decreased in the three years of their governing.


What Sir Bruce Keogh is ACTUALLY saying is reported here and whilst he is keeping his tinder dry for another day its fairly obvious that once again he has been seriously mis-quoted, and once again its embarrassed him and his department.


You have to ask yourself why - why do seemingly sensible reporters and editors take a decision to extrapolate tiny chunks of data from huge and complex reports and present them in a sensational manner, making a story where a story does not exist in order to score political points for a party currently in power - is this another example of an extremely compliant media doing the governments propaganda work - and making a bloody good job of it in the process, far better than any government press office could do ?


How much more attacking of the NHS can the NHS stand before, as suggested in that second link, the current incumbents will appear to be doing us all a favour to put the NHS down for its own good like a sick old dog - and how much reporting will be done on Sir Bruce Keogh's denial of the sensational story, this will be the true test, how will The Telegraph report Sir Bruces denial of their "facts" and will Labour grow some balls and shut the clamour for their own heads to roll by pointing out that the mis-reporting seems to have initiated on the other side of the Commons ?






Someday everything is gonna be different, when I paint my masterpiece
----------------------------------------------------------
Online art gallery, selling original landscape artwork
----------------------------------------------------------
JerryChicken - The Blog
----------------------------------------------------------

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 613 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46 ... 62  Next





It is currently Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:08 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 275 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:08 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Dual Reg
financialtim
1
9m
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Bully_Boxer
22
12m
Next week v Fev
Hockley Bron
16
27m
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
877
28m
Dust off the canteen chairs The Saints are coming to town
wakeytrin
10
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
5145
Recent
Tyson Smoothy
Wollo-Wollo-
22
Recent
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Vancouver Le
4
Recent
Super League
FIL
157
Recent
Leigh Win Again The Giants Put to the Sword
RLFANS News
1
Recent
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3769
Recent
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3362
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0s
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
Sir Gregory
137
1s
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3769
1s
Next week v Fev
Hockley Bron
16
2s
Wigan Warriors - Home
walter wall
199
2s
Hull FC A
NickyKiss
42
2s
Forum at The Shay
Tony Fax
54
3s
Tyson Smoothy
Wollo-Wollo-
22
3s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
stpatricks
3212
4s
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
Pat Bateman
118
5s
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
877
5s
1895 cup
BigTime
6
12s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
5145
17s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65297
21s
Super League
FIL
157
21s
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Bully_Boxer
22
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dual Reg
financialtim
1
TODAY
Leigh Win Again The Giants Put to the Sword
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Dust off the canteen chairs The Saints are coming to town
wakeytrin
10
TODAY
Another Big Win For Saints As Castleford Capitulate
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over Disappointing Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
This site is crap Still
tad rhino
3
TODAY
Cornwall sign Duel registration with London Broncos
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Max Jowitt extends contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Ben Davies returns to Saints
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
The big screens
Jake the Peg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC To Get Season Underway
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Super league plus
the-bearded-
3
TODAY
Players on Report
financialtim
11
TODAY
Tonights game v Catalan
Or thane
51
TODAY
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
jonh
13
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Vancouver Le
4
TODAY
League position
Kick and cha
6
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Leigh Win Again, The Giants Pu..
112
Another Big Win For Saints As ..
214
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over..
207
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC ..
300
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Po..
402
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
610
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
711
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
1013
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
791
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
560
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
799
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
971
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
982
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
1029
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
967
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh24-10Huddersfield
Thu 27th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Fri 14th Mar
CC2025
20:00
St.Helens-Leeds
Sat 15th Mar
CC2025
17:35
Wigan-Hull FC
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull FC
Sat 22nd Mar
SL
15:00
Castleford-Catalans
SL
17:30
Leeds-Wigan
Sun 23rd Feb
SL 2 Leigh24-10Huddersfield
CH 2 Halifax24-14Barrow
CH 2 Hunslet20-38Bradford
CH 2 LondonB14-12Featherstone
CH 2 Oldham18-18Batley
CH 2 Widnes10-8Sheffield
CH 2 York6-7Toulouse
L1 1 Dewsbury10-20Crusaders
L1 1 Goole V14-16Midlands
L1 1 Rochdale44-0Keighley
L1 1 Swinton16-10Whitehaven
Sat 22nd Feb
SL 2 Salford6-32Leeds
SL 2 Castleford6-46St.Helens
Fri 21st Feb
SL 2 Warrington18-12Catalans
SL 2 Hull FC4-46Wigan
Thu 20th Feb
SL2 Wakefield12-14Hull KR
Sun 16th Feb
SL 1 Huddersfield12-20Warrington
CH 1 Bradford20-6LondonB
CH 1 Featherstone22-4Doncaster
CH 1 Oldham50-4York
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Dual Reg
financialtim
1
9m
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Bully_Boxer
22
12m
Next week v Fev
Hockley Bron
16
27m
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
877
28m
Dust off the canteen chairs The Saints are coming to town
wakeytrin
10
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
5145
Recent
Tyson Smoothy
Wollo-Wollo-
22
Recent
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Vancouver Le
4
Recent
Super League
FIL
157
Recent
Leigh Win Again The Giants Put to the Sword
RLFANS News
1
Recent
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3769
Recent
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3362
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0s
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
Sir Gregory
137
1s
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3769
1s
Next week v Fev
Hockley Bron
16
2s
Wigan Warriors - Home
walter wall
199
2s
Hull FC A
NickyKiss
42
2s
Forum at The Shay
Tony Fax
54
3s
Tyson Smoothy
Wollo-Wollo-
22
3s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
stpatricks
3212
4s
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
Pat Bateman
118
5s
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
877
5s
1895 cup
BigTime
6
12s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
5145
17s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65297
21s
Super League
FIL
157
21s
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Bully_Boxer
22
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dual Reg
financialtim
1
TODAY
Leigh Win Again The Giants Put to the Sword
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Dust off the canteen chairs The Saints are coming to town
wakeytrin
10
TODAY
Another Big Win For Saints As Castleford Capitulate
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over Disappointing Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
This site is crap Still
tad rhino
3
TODAY
Cornwall sign Duel registration with London Broncos
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Max Jowitt extends contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Ben Davies returns to Saints
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
The big screens
Jake the Peg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC To Get Season Underway
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Super league plus
the-bearded-
3
TODAY
Players on Report
financialtim
11
TODAY
Tonights game v Catalan
Or thane
51
TODAY
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
jonh
13
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Vancouver Le
4
TODAY
League position
Kick and cha
6
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Leigh Win Again, The Giants Pu..
112
Another Big Win For Saints As ..
214
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over..
207
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC ..
300
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Po..
402
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
610
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
711
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
1013
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
791
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
560
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
799
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
971
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
982
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
1029
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
967


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.