FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home The Sin Bin Bank notes



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 36 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Bank notes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:01 pm 
International Chairman
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 14845
Following complaints (including from a female Tory) about the lack of women other than HMQ portrayed on our banks notes, our new Guv of BoE is to make an announcement on the subject within a month. Assuming bank notes will not be abolished, who do you reckon with be portrayed?

My guess with Tories in power and a Canadian Guv, we may see that late Magaret Hilda Thatcher.

What do you think of that prospect?

(I can just envisage the Yorkshire folk on here cuddling up in bed at night to their life savings bundled in a wad, with Maggie's visage smiling at them!).

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Bank notes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:08 pm 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels
User avatar

Joined: Feb 26 2002
Posts: 14522
Location: Online
I think the whole thing is a storm in a teacup.

Over the centuries, women have been held back by social convention and the sheer practicality of child-rearing etc.
Whilst we are leaving those times behind at last, it is still the case that most of history was made by men, so, of the four denominations of banknote (£5, £10, £20, £50 ... any others?), if you put a woman on there, you are using up 25% of the space ... not really representative, is it?

My suggestion would be to have more than one portrait per denomination ... then we could be more representative.
Failing that, don't have people depicted at all.

While we are at it, we could lose the Queen from the notes ... we never had a monarch on them before her, so why now?

Thatcher on banknotes would push me to total debit card use.






Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice.
Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Bank notes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:12 pm 
International Chairman
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 14845
El Barbudo wrote:I think the whole thing is a storm in a teacup.

Over the centuries, women have been held back by social convention and the sheer practicality of child-rearing etc.
Whilst we are leaving those times behind at last, it is still the case that most of history was made by men, so, of the four denominations of banknote (£5, £10, £20, £50 ... any others?), if you put a woman on there, you are using up 25% of the space ... not really representative, is it?

My suggestion would be to have more than one portrait per denomination ... then we could be more representative.
Failing that, don't have people depicted at all.

While we are at it, we could lose the Queen from the notes ... we never had a monarch on them before her, so why now?

Thatcher on banknotes would push me to total debit card use.


I reckon Thatcher will be proposed and I reckon their could be a backlash that is more than a storm in a teacup. Could be fun.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Bank notes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:18 pm 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels
User avatar

Joined: Feb 26 2002
Posts: 14522
Location: Online
Dally wrote:I reckon Thatcher will be proposed and I reckon their could be a backlash that is more than a storm in a teacup. Could be fun.

When the pound coin was introduced, it was for a while nicknamed The Thatcher.
Small, brassy and thought it was a sovereign.






Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice.
Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Bank notes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:22 pm 
International Board Member
International Board Member
User avatar

Joined: Apr 03 2003
Posts: 28186
Location: A world of my own ...
IIRC the Mint have always had "back up" figures for bank notes in case there were printing problems with the suggested ones.

It is convention for this back up figure to move onto the bank note the next time one is changed. The position is currently held I believe by Jane Austen, so she would be the next logical choice.






"As you travel through life don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things" - George Carlin

//twitter.com/AndyGilder

//fromthewesternterrace.blogspot.co.uk

This week: Four keys to a Rhinos win in the WCC

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Bank notes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:42 pm 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels
User avatar

Joined: Oct 19 2003
Posts: 17898
Location: Packed like sardines, in a tin
El Barbudo wrote:When the pound coin was introduced, it was for a while nicknamed The Thatcher.
Small, brassy and thought it was a sovereign.

:DRUMMER: Are you here all week?






2005 Challenge Cup

To reconcile respect with practicality, what is the optimum speed for a hearse?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Bank notes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:45 pm 
All Time Great
All Time Great
User avatar

Joined: May 10 2002
Posts: 47951
Location: Die Metropole
Andy Gilder wrote:IIRC the Mint have always had "back up" figures for bank notes in case there were printing problems with the suggested ones.

It is convention for this back up figure to move onto the bank note the next time one is changed. The position is currently held I believe by Jane Austen, so she would be the next logical choice.


And this year being the 200th anniversary of the publication of P&P ...






"You are working for Satan." Kirkstaller

"Dare to know!" Immanuel Kant

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" Elbert Hubbard

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde

The Voluptuous Manifesto – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Bank notes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:44 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Feb 20 2007
Posts: 10540
Location: Hunting Gopher
Andy Gilder wrote:IIRC the Mint have always had "back up" figures for bank notes in case there were printing problems with the suggested ones.

It is convention for this back up figure to move onto the bank note the next time one is changed. The position is currently held I believe by Jane Austen, so she would be the next logical choice.


I think you're right, I heard something about her being next the other day.

I have to agree with El Barbudo in general though, I really don't get why it's an issue. Why would it matter if there wasn't a woman on any of the notes? Would it matter if there were no men?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Bank notes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:45 pm 
All Time Great
All Time Great
User avatar

Joined: May 10 2002
Posts: 47951
Location: Die Metropole
carl_spackler wrote:I think you're right, I heard something about her being next the other day.

I have to agree with El Barbudo in general though, I really don't get why it's an issue. Why would it matter if there wasn't a woman on any of the notes? Would it matter if there were no men?


Because some people get worried about such symbols.






"You are working for Satan." Kirkstaller

"Dare to know!" Immanuel Kant

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" Elbert Hubbard

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde

The Voluptuous Manifesto – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Bank notes
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:55 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Feb 20 2007
Posts: 10540
Location: Hunting Gopher
Mintball wrote:Because some people get worried about such symbols.


I still just don't understand why. If anything, it suggests to me a paranoia/inferiority complex about such things that has the potential to undermine genuine issues. It's pictures on a piece of paper, why does one of them have to be a woman for the sake of one of them being a woman? If there was a campaign for an individual person whom people thought worthy I'd see much more value in it, but this backwards approach of first deciding that one must be from a particular demographic and then scrabbling around for worthy candidates within that demographic just seems weird. Put anyone on there who seems worthy, and make the case for them on the merit of their achievements. I don't think it's healthy to base the case around their gender or ethnicity or anything similarly arbitrary, as IMO that can only cheapen your point and their standing.

I've often thought that very few people seem to stop short at campaigning for equality/fair treatment, they find problems where there aren't any and end up looking for superiority/preferential treatment.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 36 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next





It is currently Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:51 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 122 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:51 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
11m
Film game
Boss Hog
5915
25m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2641
56m
Mike Cooper podcast
matt_wire
21
Recent
Ground Improvements
vastman
242
Recent
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Irregs#16
8
Recent
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Deadcowboys1
11
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Father Ted
550
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
2m
Film game
Boss Hog
5915
2m
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63302
3m
2025 COACH Brad Arthur
Vic Mackie
257
3m
Planning for next season
Septimius Se
190
3m
Realistic targets for 2025
al283
152
5m
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
7m
New signings
WelshGiant
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Irregs#16
8
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
matt_wire
21
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
11m
Film game
Boss Hog
5915
25m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2641
56m
Mike Cooper podcast
matt_wire
21
Recent
Ground Improvements
vastman
242
Recent
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Irregs#16
8
Recent
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Deadcowboys1
11
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Father Ted
550
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
2m
Film game
Boss Hog
5915
2m
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63302
3m
2025 COACH Brad Arthur
Vic Mackie
257
3m
Planning for next season
Septimius Se
190
3m
Realistic targets for 2025
al283
152
5m
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
7m
New signings
WelshGiant
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Irregs#16
8
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
matt_wire
21
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.