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Mintball wrote: I'm fascinated by the history of the dish. It was originally from Sacndinavia and was a sailors' dish, was carried around the Baltic and points beyond by seamen - hence its place in Liverpudlian culture.
I'd seriously question those origins.
Liverpool and Hull share many similarities: dialect, both are ports, both had a high proportion of immigrants (usually sailors jumping ship). Hull has a historic Scandinavian and Baltic population but I've never seen anything that remotely resembles lobscouse being served.
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cod'ead wrote:I'd seriously question those origins.
Liverpool and Hull share many similarities: dialect, both are ports, both had a high proportion of immigrants (usually sailors jumping ship). Hull has a historic Scandinavian and Baltic population but I've never seen anything that remotely resembles lobscouse being served.
Aye, but no-one is saying that lobscouse became universal in seaports, just that that was probably how it spread to the places you now find it. Besides, 'ull is in Yorkshire, where better food was more readily available than West of the Pennines.
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El Barbudo wrote:Aye, but no-one is saying that lobscouse became universal in seaports, just that that was probably how it spread to the places you now find it. Besides, 'ull is in Yorkshire, where better food was more readily available than West of the Pennines.
It must've travelled to Stoke-on-Trent via the navigators of the Trent & Mersey Canal
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Joined: May 25 2002 Posts: 37704 Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
peggy wrote:Enjoyed a very interesting half hour, accompanied with a large pile of crumpets smothered in butter
I heard that programme too and have decided to set aside some future time to "churn" my own butter.
It was also interesting to hear how the Van Den Berghs et al had managed to replace trans-fats with something that sounded equally as hideous. Anyone studying marketing should view the turnaround of margarine from a wartime, 3rd-rate butter alternative to a healthy, expensive life-style choice as a major success story
peggy wrote:Enjoyed a very interesting half hour, accompanied with a large pile of crumpets smothered in butter
I heard that programme too and have decided to set aside some future time to "churn" my own butter.
It was also interesting to hear how the Van Den Berghs et al had managed to replace trans-fats with something that sounded equally as hideous. Anyone studying marketing should view the turnaround of margarine from a wartime, 3rd-rate butter alternative to a healthy, expensive life-style choice as a major success story
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
The only time I have churned butter was one time back in the 90's when I had a surfeit of cream. It was about this time of year and I had taken the bait of a free tub of cream with each punnet of strawberries. As I used up the several punnets of strawberries without using the cream, I had wondered what to do with it. Without reading-up, I just beat away at it and kept at it beyond the usual whipped-cream stage until it turned into butter, then I slapped it about with wide spatulas until it (virtually) stopped weeping clear liquid. It didn't produce a lot of butter but, boy, was it a lovely creamy butter.
The same day I used-up an ageing jar of lavender honey by making toffee with it and the "normal" butter that was now spare.
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El Barbudo wrote:The only time I have churned butter was one time back in the 90's when I had a surfeit of cream. It was about this time of year and I had taken the bait of a free tub of cream with each punnet of strawberries. As I used up the several punnets of strawberries without using the cream, I had wondered what to do with it. Without reading-up, I just beat away at it and kept at it beyond the usual whipped-cream stage until it turned into butter, then I slapped it about with wide spatulas until it (virtually) stopped weeping clear liquid. It didn't produce a lot of butter but, boy, was it a lovely creamy butter.
The same day I used-up an ageing jar of lavender honey by making toffee with it and the "normal" butter that was now spare.
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