On the one hand, fracking sounds as though it will make the UK self-sufficient in energy for some decades which is not to be sniffed at, and any chance to stick up a middle digit at Putin is very tempting indeed. It will bring jobs to the North, proper full time jobs that might even pay a decent wage. It might even bring energy costs down but on that point I await being convinced as energy, like anything else, is priced at what you can sell it for, not for how much it costs to extract.
On the other hand, it's another fossil fuel, supply is huge but nonetheless finite and burning it will contribute to global warming, so it is not a panacea.
Local communities are being primed with suggestions that they might get some cash if a well is in their locale ... TBH I'd need more than a small amount of cash to buy a playing field to offset my concerns if I thought that my house was going to lose value or there were going to be earth tremors, pollution etc etc
It's going to be interesting.
Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice. Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality.
El Barbudo wrote:On the one hand, fracking sounds as though it will make the UK self-sufficient in energy for some decades which is not to be sniffed at, and any chance to stick up a middle digit at Putin is very tempting indeed. It will bring jobs to the North, proper full time jobs that might even pay a decent wage. It might even bring energy costs down but on that point I await being convinced as energy, like anything else, is priced at what you can sell it for, not for how much it costs to extract.
On the other hand, it's another fossil fuel, supply is huge but nonetheless finite and burning it will contribute to global warming, so it is not a panacea.
Local communities are being primed with suggestions that they might get some cash if a well is in their locale ... TBH I'd need more than a small amount of cash to buy a playing field to offset my concerns if I thought that my house was going to lose value or there were going to be earth tremors, pollution etc etc
It's going to be interesting.
My concern is that it will reduce the urgency with which the government attempts to find an alternative source of fuel that is both renewable and unlikely destroy the planet. We know that fossil fuels are harmful to the environment, we know that fracking has the possibility of causing environmental damage and that the sites are liable to become blots on the landscape. Being able to give Putin the finger seems like a bit of a hollow victory to me.
Christianity: because you're so awful you made God kill himself.
My issue with it is that in a tiny country like here, with big population centres close by, the environmental and health consequences of contamination of the water table could be catastrophic. Could make Fukushima look like a fart in the playground.
The North should be planning independence and put it to a vote just as the gas comes on stream. Then sell it to Boris and George at huge prices (after Boris and George have already invested billions in a pipeline).
Dally wrote:My issue with it is that in a tiny country like here, with big population centres close by, the environmental and health consequences of contamination of the water table could be catastrophic. Could make Fukushima look like a fart in the playground.
Possibly the most sensible post ever done by Dally
Huddersfield Giants 2013 over achievers
Huddersfield Giants 2014 under achievers ??????????
Joined: May 25 2002 Posts: 37704 Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
Apparently one of the major finds has been directly under Tatton. Let's see how quickly that is brought on-stream
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
Joined: May 10 2002 Posts: 47951 Location: Die Metropole
El Barbudo wrote:... On the other hand, it's another fossil fuel, supply is huge but nonetheless finite and burning it will contribute to global warming, so it is not a panacea.
Local communities are being primed with suggestions that they might get some cash if a well is in their locale ... TBH I'd need more than a small amount of cash to buy a playing field to offset my concerns if I thought that my house was going to lose value or there were going to be earth tremors, pollution etc etc
It's going to be interesting.
I haven't read deeply on the subject, but on the basis of what I have read, this sums up my concerns too.
"You are working for Satan." Kirkstaller
"Dare to know!" Immanuel Kant
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" Elbert Hubbard
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 116 guests
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
