Dead Man Walking wrote:I see the EDL have been out last night on the streets in their balaclavas. Do they have something to hide by disguising themselves as I would have thought that they'd have no problem showing their faces ?
From what I've seen most of them have reason to wear masks, not blessed with good genes that lot. Then again I'm in no position to remark on such things
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Dead Man Walking wrote:I see the EDL have been out last night on the streets in their balaclavas. Do they have something to hide by disguising themselves as I would have thought that they'd have no problem showing their faces ?
They're all Muslim women, so have to cover their faces
I wonder what you all think about what I think is a double standard at play. I've read many sickening comments on Twitter and Facebook, calling on death to Muslims, "Pakis"(lol wut?), let's go burn mosques and drag muslim children from their schools... That sort of thing. Hundreds if not thousands of comments like that, seemingly the police aren't all that interested in these people.
I have no doubt for the most part it's racists and idiots blowing off steam and that they're not really going to take to the streets. But I've seen much milder stuff than this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80-wV5TlZ8o result in investigations, trials and convictions.
I wonder what you all think about what I think is a double standard at play. I've read many sickening comments on Twitter and Facebook, calling on death to Muslims, "Pakis"(lol wut?), let's go burn mosques and drag muslim children from their schools... That sort of thing. Hundreds if not thousands of comments like that, seemingly the police aren't all that interested in these people.
I have no doubt for the most part it's racists and idiots blowing off steam and that they're not really going to take to the streets. But I've seen much milder stuff than this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80-wV5TlZ8o result in investigations, trials and convictions.
rumpelstiltskin wrote:Thank you Jerry. I am indeed aware of how the law works, but that was not the question.
I'll ask you once again, if a couple of Yorkshire's Jihadists stormed in to disrupt your Sunday lunch, and proceeded to behead your youngest daughter, would you be quite so sanguine? Would their "rights" to exercise their own brand of political terrorism trump your daughter's right to life?
Or would this fine Liberal conscience which we see in your latest manifestation as "JerryChicken" simply dismiss it as a price worth paying in the greater scheme of things?
I much preferred the wit and humour of Mclaren Field.
Its a stupid question which is always asked by those who's preferred response is one of kneejerking fekkwittery - you could start by pointing out at which post I mentioned that anyone had a "right" to practice any form of terrorism or where I have dismissed anything as a "price worth paying" ?
But you won't.
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ChrisGS wrote:In either case this is an act of terrorism, in the general sense and in a more specific legal sense to what I know, at least so far as the UK goes.
The perpetrator did implore the camera man and more generally the British people to do-away with the government, on the other hand, and that's (b) and (c) in section 1. Political/religious coercion, the means being serious violence.
I'm confused as to why there is any doubt this is an act of terrorism but I'm not a legal person. Seems pretty clear cut to me
Until the investigations are concluded how do you know they weren't just a pair of deluded psychotic morons who latched onto this "cause" compared to any other?
They aren't your typical Muslim Extremest as they are still alive i.e. not Martyred! Why didn't they attack the Army Barracks? Why didn't they attack the public once having got their soldier?
As I said Lord Reid has already decided they are terrorists and May wants the snoopers charter back. In my view it would be far better if it turns out they were as I describe.
Lending weight to their motives in describing them as terrorists and what they did an act of terror instead of murder doesn't do anyone any favours.
If after the investigation is concluded it turns out they have been off to training camps and were groomed for the attack, fair enough. Until them lumping this in the same basket as 9/11 , 7/7 or any IRA attacks is just not helpful and is in fact dangerous IMO.
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Dally wrote:Precisely. But this is the rubbish our national, taxpayer funded, broadcaster puts out as being balanced and reasonable and suckers that the person you answered buy it.
We should heed George Bush;'s words to the effect you are either for us or against us. We should do so by calling all British citizens to stand in public and declare their allegiance to the UK, a set of defined values and its laws. Those unwilling to do so should be asked to leave to somewhere they feel they may have more affinity for.
Well said. This is a war and all right minded people should stand up for decency against the forces of darkness. I felt sick when i saw this on tv. What a horrible hellhole our country has become.
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Rooster Booster wrote:That ain't a perfect London accent. It's an accent in London from someone who is african. That geezer would be at a guess african raised in London. And looking at him, West African.
OK, he never used 'apples and pairs' or 'cor blimey Guv' but he sounded like most the teenage kids you here from the capital, white or black.
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rupert bear wrote:What a horrible hellhole our country has become.
Dally wrote:We should ... call all British citizens to stand in public and declare their allegiance to the UK, a set of defined values and its laws. Those unwilling to do so should be asked to leave to somewhere they feel they may have more affinity for.
If it's that bad, maybe Dally will help you set up somewhere comfy
Mintball wrote:If that's what you meant – fine. Perhaps you should learn to write what you mean. And it should be 'haven't there'. If you're going to try to patronise, it helps to at least look basically literate.
For clarity, in case you're struggling, I have not doubt there have been attacks and would not suggest otherwise. But some sort of massive surge? And from just one set of reactionary thugs?
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