Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:59 pm
toast
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The reason why thatcher came into power was because the labour government was in a mess and influential rock stars like Weller and Strummer were highly critical of labour and were threatening to vote Tory. In 83 it was over some piece of rock in the Atlantic, that the vast majority neither knew nor cared about, and still don't. In 87 she had the malignant backing of the Murdoch press and it's vitriolic rhetoric of Neil kinnock.
Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:01 pm
rover49
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El Barbudo wrote:Most people would say that those who served in the forces deserve some respect. I have no idea why you'd want to keep it secret, especially having mentioned it yourself.
.......ssssshh!
He can't tell you, he will be banned under recent government rulings, nudge, nudge.
'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:04 pm
El Barbudo
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rover49 wrote:You do realise that the highest unemployment levels have always been under Tory governance don't you, in fact under Thatcher it was close to 5 million (including all the fiddled out figures, such as a man claiming for his wife if both were out of work).
She was once quoted as saying 'three million unemployed is a price worth paying', which all well and good for a multi-millionaire to say, but the aftermath in places like Mexborough, Moorends and other pit economies is still being felt to this day. It's very similar to the rhetoric we are getting now from silver spooned individuals like Cameron, Osbourne and Clegg (all multi-millionaires from inheritance) with 'we are all in this together'. Well I am sorry but we are not, never have been and never will be.
One down, far too many to go.
It was actually Lamont (who gets my vote as the worst chancellor we ever had) who said "Rising unemployment and the recession have been the price that we have had to pay to get inflation down. That price is well worth paying". But she probably thought so too... and I agree with the rest of your post.
Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice. Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality.
Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:30 pm
JerryChicken
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toast wrote:The reason why thatcher came into power was because the labour government was in a mess and influential rock stars like Weller and Strummer were highly critical of labour and were threatening to vote Tory. In 83 it was over some piece of rock in the Atlantic, that the vast majority neither knew nor cared about, and still don't. In 87 she had the malignant backing of the Murdoch press and it's vitriolic rhetoric of Neil kinnock.
Absolutely correct in every respect, Labour were unelectable under Callaghan, Foot and Kinnock.
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Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:31 pm
SaintsFan
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rover49 wrote:You do realise that the highest unemployment levels have always been under Tory governance don't you, in fact under Thatcher it was close to 5 million (including all the fiddled out figures, such as a man claiming for his wife if both were out of work).
How is that a 'fact' when the reported figures were around 3 million? I think you need to take a look in a dictionary to establish the definition of the word 'fact'. The unemployment figures already stood at around 1.7 million when Thatcher took office so she didn't 'treble' the number and nor was she responsible for 3 million being unemployed.
Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill)
Post subject: Re: Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead...
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:41 pm
Knuckles
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The mob, great! I've got an idea. Get the beer and sandwiches on Harold. Why don't you lot get yourselves together and form a union, then you can spout garbage all day long to each other.
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