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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:00 am 
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I have to say I agree with Rach and Diehard. This is great work from Len.

As a former trained analyst for a large financial institution in my earlier years I would have no issue with that piece of work. Whether it be sport, retail or financial you want to compare year on year performance. You are always going to have variables and in this case it's the players/staff and the coach/management. This should not prevent a comparison and may in essence explain the performance issue. In Len's case he's compared this season against last and shown under-performance, albeit, not as dire as some would make out. There will be any number of reasons for this, be it players, coaching or maybe other factors.

Looking at it simply and I think Diehard eluded to it, we are not clinical enough with ball in hand and fail to punish teams' mistakes. Defensively we are conceding some soft tries. Thursday was a shining example. We conceded early and then had a period of pressure but failed to capitalise on Featherstone's errors. They then rode the little storm and punished us.

All in all, I for one didn't expect us to beat Fax, Feav or Leigh, but hoped we would show progression from last season. I expected us to beat Swinton and Haven so I am disappointed.

Do I think the Board will make changes, no. I'm not sure they can afford to.

Would a defeat against York make PM's position untenable, maybe not, but the game on Sunday is massive.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:03 am 
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Dominance wrote:
Do I think the Board will make changes, no. I'm not sure they can afford to.


As I mentioned in an earlier post , I suspect the balance sheet could be quite healthy
with only paying lose match fees to the players thus far ....So ,maybe they could afford
to make some changes.....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:24 am 
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:IDEA: It's my ethic that it's only when you are at the bottom you know how really good a club you are. This club belongs to US so get involved. Such things as getting a team together and spruce things up around the ground, contribute to the programme, buy a half-time draw ticket. For the price of a pint every week join Squadbuilder and then we can fund more players. I don't think it has been recognised what an incredible job Margaret Procter has done with the Squadbuilder. It is the small things that can really do great things indeed. :DANCE:


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:36 am 
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Rach wrote:BULL !!!

That is just rubbish , how many threads on here have mentioned JD , Obsty and the like from LAST season???

Yet again on here somebody comes on here with a reasoned well researched and valid point and its dismissed so trivially so you can continue the moaning -its like listening to old ladies on a bus !!!


How is it Bull.

Please point out where i have mentioned JD, Obsty and the like from last year. Your reading other peoples post and then using mine to have your say.

Its just like saying, the beer isnt as good as last year and the bar staff are very slow in serving. When the bar staff are new and so is the beer. How would that be ok.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:46 am 
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burleycougar wrote:As I mentioned in an earlier post , I suspect the balance sheet could be quite healthy
with only paying lose match fees to the players thus far ....So ,maybe they could afford
to make some changes.....


You may well be right, but there will be contracts to pay up and possible signing on fees and wages to new recruits etc. But, like I say you could well be correct and the club has some money in it's balance sheet.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:50 am 
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Diehard wrote:Well done Lawkholme Len brilliant stats it’s good to know someone has such dedication I enjoyed reading them . However the facts are after a quarter of the season we are 2 points adrift at the bottom of the table with the worst points for and against. It hurts me to say in all honesty currently we are the worst performing team in the Championship.

Fair points, but have added the word performing

Quote:There is no point in bickering with each other on this forum we need be honest and analyse why. It starts with the following simple questions.

That's fair enough, as long as you answer the questions fairly and impartially rather than trying to back up your point of view.

Have all the other clubs got a larger playing budget than Cougars….No
How do you know that?

Have other clubs got injuries to players in their squads….Yes
Depends on how key those players are to the team.

Have all the other clubs got better players than Cougars….No
You've been selective in the use of the word ALL. In my opinion the top 6 clubs have better squads than us.

Having had a season in the Championship should our players be better prepared at this level than the promoted clubs….Yes

Should we be better than the four clubs that finished below us last season….Yes
Why? Have they stood still? Have they just simply laid down and accepted that we should be better?

Have other clubs got better DR players than us….Debatable
On Sunday four of Yorks tries were scored by DR players and three of Hunslets.

Are other clubs better organised than Cougars on the field …Yes
We do OK until we start to rotate players. Whether this is down to players or change in tactics I don't know, but it must be addressed.

Is Paul March a good leader on the field….No
He did OK at York and Hunslet, as an outsider it looked like he led them well. If the performance of a coach or player changes then questions need answering - is it him or other circumstances?



I'm not disagreeing with everything you've said, just adding perspective.

If you are going to solve a problem then you need to establish the REAL root cause(s) first.






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Dominance wrote:You may well be right, but there will be contracts to pay up and possible signing on fees and wages to new recruits etc. But, like I say you could well be correct and the club has some money in it's balance sheet.


You could be right but it could also have used it to pay off it's debts (I would assume it still has them).

It would be nice to think we have a cash surplus but I can't think of many loosing RL clubs that have much.






I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right!

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Yes , would be interesting to find out.

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Reading the Keighley News York have a massive injury crisis and only have 18 fit players. at the beginning of the season this game would have been a banker so its over to you PM there is NO excuse not to win this game.
Good Luck

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Not sure losing pay is a good strategy for a business. If you dont have a good product your customers go elsewhere!

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