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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:08 pm 
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SaintsFan wrote:Whereas some of us didn't use any terminology that would shock today because we simply weren't raised that way.

I'm in my late 40s. I remember when Chinese people were called chinks routinely. I remember when to be black was to be not only in the minority but publically picked on. My sister was the first black kid at her local high school - which had 2000 students attending at the time. The school asked my parents to keep her home one day while the headteacher read the riot act in a whole school assembly making quite clear that racism would not be tolerated. She sailed through school serenely.

I grew up in a mixed heritage family in an almost totally white middle class area (there were just two Chinese families living locally) of Christian parents who voted conservative. But my parents were so far thinking that they didn't bat an eyelid when adopting a black child (who was born of white birth parents, so she would have been raised in the same racial environment had she not been put up for adoption). My parents were publically stared at and mocked for having a black child, even by members of their own family. That was in the 1970s. So I know about past attitudes, and not just towards those with a different racial or cultural backgrounds.



So you'll now agree that this statement is incorrect ...

"All our values begin life in a belief system outside of ourselves whether that is a religion or just the beliefs of our parents imparted to us. We all get 'indoctrinated', from birth. And you are as unlikely to change your view as a religious person is to change theirs"






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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:12 pm 
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If your outlook, values, whatever don't develop as you take in more and new experiences, you're doing life wrong.
I think the 16-year old me would barely recognise this current model.






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 Post subject: Re: Marriage Equality Vote Today
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:14 pm 
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SaintsFan wrote:The school asked my parents to keep her home one day while the headteacher read the riot act in a whole school assembly making quite clear that racism would not be tolerated. She sailed through school serenely.



By the way, I too recall an assembly in 1969 in our grammar school of 800+ boys where we were presented with a double whammy by the Head, and read the riot act ...

... we were getting, the following day, not only our first Asian pupil (he even had a turban) but our first disabled pupil who I'm assuming with the benefit of knowledge gained since, had a cerebral palsy of some mild affect.

These were the day when prime time TV shows still referred to Asian folk as "Paki's" and the association that represented the disabled was The Spastic Society.

Things have changed...






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 Post subject: Re: Marriage Equality Vote Today
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John_D wrote:If your outlook, values, whatever don't develop as you take in more and new experiences, you're doing life wrong.
I think the 16-year old me would barely recognise this current model.


shame people like kirkstaller and Dally can't learn these lessons.

But I guess if you can't grasp eveolution you can't really hope to eveolve.

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 Post subject: Re: Marriage Equality Vote Today
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:09 pm 
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Standee wrote:shame people like kirkstaller and Dally can't learn these lessons.

But I guess if you can't grasp eveolution you can't really hope to eveolve.


Freudian slip - showing you believe the Biblical story of Adam ansd Eve!?

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 Post subject: Re: Marriage Equality Vote Today
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:20 pm 
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I refuse to believe that anyone truly believes the Adam and Steve story.






Tarquin Fuego wrote: I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old.


The Reason wrote:Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Sheldon wrote:I refuse to believe that anyone truly believes the Adam and Steve story.


You are right. How could a couple of shirtlifters beget the whole of humanity.

On the other hand the Adam and Eve story probably is correct. Analysis strongly suggests that all of Europe's population derive from a single couple.

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 Post subject: Re: Marriage Equality Vote Today
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Again, put it down.






Tarquin Fuego wrote: I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old.


The Reason wrote:Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Sheldon wrote:Again, put it down.


I could say the same to you but in your case I would not be talking about the fictitous wine.

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 Post subject: Re: Marriage Equality Vote Today
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What would you be talking about then?






Tarquin Fuego wrote: I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old.


The Reason wrote:Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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