Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 18060 Location: On the road
Damo-Leeds wrote:Employable is a very funny word.
I'd assume most would agree that volunteering in a museum requires more than working part time in a supermarket.
Lets have a look at one piece of experience you need to get a job at a supermarket: stacking shelves.
Well most people have stacked shelves in their lives when food shopping needs unpacking and putting into the cupboards, fridge and freezer. However working in a museum requires knowledge which normally comes from a university education which Cait Reilly has had.
More drivel - so to stand on the door of a museum and show people where to go or working behind the counter of their shop needs a university education?
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 18060 Location: On the road
The point here is whether you think those on JSA are spending 39 hours a week looking for work. How can we possibly know?
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Well a lot of bank managers just happen to get the same golden handshakes during the big losses and it's the same deal for these workfare companies. I had the misfortune of meeting a manager who works for Ingeus and he spent many years working for the financial sector before swapping jobs to exploit the unemployed.
WIZEB wrote:Emma got a nice golden handshake mate, for making a sizable loss
Well a lot of bank managers just happen to get the same golden handshakes during the big losses and it's the same deal for these workfare companies. I had the misfortune of meeting a manager who works for Ingeus and he spent many years working for the financial sector before swapping jobs to exploit the unemployed.
Sal Paradise wrote:More drivel - so to stand on the door of a museum and show people where to go or working behind the counter of their shop needs a university education?
If you put it that way then no you don't need a university education to do the tasks above. However customers visiting the museum will at least expect that the staff can engage in a intelligent conversation reguarding the content in the museum.
A couple of months ago I went to a local exhibition and one of the highlights was talking to the site manager who went through with me the history of sunny bank mills in Farsley. Yes whenever he went to university or not is irrelevant but these types of jobs can't just go to anybody unlike supermarket jobs. They is a difference.
Joined: May 10 2002 Posts: 47951 Location: Die Metropole
Standee wrote:shows how employable she is then
Unfortunately, there are not a huge number of jobs around at present.
The only thing that my niece can get at present is part-time in an independent jewellery shop in Leeds – after becoming the first of our immediate family to get a degree.
In the case of this young woman, she has a geology degree and had organised work experience for herself, in a local museum. In other words, something that was relevant to her degree and her career hopes. That was stopped when she was told that she had to do WorkFare in Poundland. In other words, work experience had nothing to do with anything.
Her subsequent work for Morrisons illustrates two things: that she's employable and that she's not afraid to work.
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Mintball wrote:Unfortunately, there are not a huge number of jobs around at present.
The only thing that my niece can get at present is part-time in an independent jewellery shop in Leeds – after becoming the first of our immediate family to get a degree.
at the risk of sparking an inter-personal (but not personal) argument, what is her degree in, and where from?
Joined: Nov 23 2009 Posts: 12749 Location: The Hamptons of East Yorkshire
Mintball wrote:Fine art from Leeds College of Art & Design, which has a very good track record on providing people for industries that require designers etc.
I couldn't give a fook if she'd never taken an exam in her life. If the works there, the @rseholes should pay them the going rate. End of!
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