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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:14 pm 
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Standee wrote:I dont think any of them would get further than a Blue Peter badge and getting a picture on the Gallery, thats the problem, when we want someone to operate on us we expect a trained and educated specialist, when buying a house we want a trained and educated solicitor/lawyer, even when I buy meat from the supermarket I expect the person serving me to have had some training.

And then, we get Grant Shapps as Housing Minister

they are all useless to varying extents


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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:22 pm 
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Standee wrote:Labour have been very specific about what they wou.... oh, hang on.

Oh sorry, I thought the coalition were still supposed to be running the economy.
They were going to eliminate the deficit within one parliamentary term and growth would happen as if by magic.
They now admit they need at least two terms ... meantime debt has gone up and growth down.

Great, this plan A, isn't it ?

Prior to the banking collapse, Labour's deficit and debt were perfectly manageable and Darling even coaxed some growth after it.

If you want talk about opposition's plans, maybe you can tell us what Gideon would have done about the banks, seeing as he spoke out against bailing the banks out but never said what he would have done instead.






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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:30 pm 
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and yet again, RLFans becomes Socialist Worker in all but name.

there are far too may people living as cliches on here

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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:32 pm 
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Standee wrote:and yet again, RLFans becomes Socialist Worker in all but name.

there are far too may people living as cliches on here


You've only been back a day and you've run out of arguments already?






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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:41 pm 
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Big Graeme wrote:You've only been back a day and you've run out of arguments already?


nope, just remembered why I gave up posting, same old stagers, same old arguments, same old jealousy.

a new year in dates only

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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:43 pm 
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Standee wrote:nope, just remembered why I gave up posting, same old stagers, same old arguments, same old jealousy.

a new year in dates only


I don't understand what you were replying to? None of the posts I can see are in any way the politics of the SWP, not even close.






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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
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Big Graeme wrote:I don't understand what you were replying to? None of the posts I can see are in any way the politics of the SWP, not even close.


Its because he mentioned that the Labour party didn't state what their plans for the economy would be.

ElB responded with the fact that the Tory party didn't have a plan for the economy when they were in opposition either.

And that prompted a foot stomping hissy fit in a true Violet Elizabeth Bott style.

No, I don't really understand it either.






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 Post subject: Re: Another retail casualty
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:15 pm 
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Standee wrote:nope, just remembered why I gave up posting, same old stagers, same old arguments, same old jealousy.

a new year in dates only

You need to brush-up on political movements a bit.
I don' t think you''ll find the SWP ever supporting my views which, for a start, include acceptance of a market economy.
But then, I guess anyone to your left is a total commie pinko in your view, yes?






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Standee wrote:problem is, people did just that, and then bought online because they could get it cheaper, even from Jessops themselves, I saw a lens online for about £700, found a shop near where I was working and the tag price was nearer £1000, so I went home, and duly ordered it from a completely differene supplier.

Jessops invested a substantial amount in print technology just as the market all but collapsed, and again, there were cheaper alternatives available.


The unending price-cutting model, as illustrated in The Wal-Mart Effect by Charles Fishman, eventually loses jobs and decreases quality.

El Barbudo wrote:Such great growth (between double dips into recession) that GDP is still below 2007 levels.
And still no sign of plan B.
But hey- ho, the cabinet millionaires are doing ok, so let' s be thankful.


And unless there was some sort of a miracle in the last quarter, we'll be back into recession soon, IIRC.






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Standee wrote:... when I buy meat from the supermarket I expect the person serving me to have had some training..


It'll be minimal – as with fish.

You'd be very lucky to get a real butcher who could, for instance, French trim a rack of lamb for you.






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