kirkstaller wrote: Matthew and Luke provide an accurate, historical description of the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ. So I guess my answer is yes.
But a very contradictory account. Matthew has him born in a house in Bethlehem where his parents lived and then fleeing to Egypt until Herod was dead and then moving to Nazareth for fear of Herod's son. Luke has him born in a manger in Bethlehem having travelled there from Nazareth due to a census and then returning and living in Galilea. One could almost imagine they were written by a Roman many years after the death of Jesus in order to assimilate a troublesome Jewish sect into the main body of Roman society.
Somewhere in the dust of time rest the bones of the Galilean He who was spat upon. He whose face was marred beyond all human likeness Somewhere buried among the lies of the past rests the tomb of Yeshua Of he who was made God in a world without Hope. And when this son of Joseph is found. What then will the Church of Rome say? Prepare yourself for the day is coming. And men will say "Blessed are the wasted lives who perished in the flames of the holy war"
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Mad_Jack_Mcmad wrote:But a very contradictory account. Matthew has him born in a house in Bethlehem where his parents lived and then fleeing to Egypt until Herod was dead and then moving to Nazareth for fear of Herod's son. Luke has him born in a manger in Bethlehem having travelled there from Nazareth due to a census and then returning and living in Galilea.
Ok......
Matthew does not say that Mary and Joseph lived in Bethlehem.
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kirkstaller wrote:If you accept God's existence, and any reasonable person should, you'd worship him for forgiving your sins.
You sound like you are not a child of God. Therefore, your musings are not only worthless, but annoying.
I'm a child of my mam & dad. My views, however worthless they may appear, have been formed by 60 years of watching and observing human behaviour. The closest I ever came to a true spiritual experience was spending an evening, into the sunrise, with an old native American, on top of a mountain in Eastern Oregon. When the sun rose, he pointed to it and told me that's all I needed to know and believe in. We'd spent the hours prior to that discussing what had happened to his forebears, usually at the hands of "people of faith"
Fook your god and all he stands for
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100% Wire wrote:You're all getting trolled. haha
You can always trust a Wire to interject with an enlightened piece of wisdom.
Your avatar isn't really a cartoon is it?
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
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