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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:27 pm 
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Durham Giant wrote:... I get the feeling a lot of posters would be quite happy to go to the colosseum to see Christians fed to to the Lions again.


Except that, in actual history, that hardly ever happened.






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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:53 pm 
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Big Graeme wrote:No, we'd just rather not have all that claptrap forced down our throats and have the holy inflict their beliefs on others by way of laws and hijacking of ancient rites and customs.


Quite. I'd add to that that anyone should be free to believe in any deity they please, but when what that belief is unsupported by evidence, it should be open to ridicule in the same way as any other unsupported belief. And when that belief has a morally-repugnant flavour to it (like Kirkstaller's), that too should be called out.






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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:02 pm 
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Rock God X wrote:If you're not a troll, you're guilty of a disgusting level of moral cowardice. You excuse actions that you would, without hesitation, describe as 'evil' if they were perpetrated by a man, solely because your 'God' is the evildoer.


I, as a Christian, believe that God determines what is right and what is wrong. God has told us to love him, our neighbour too, and to not hate or murder. These are clearly good standards of morality, but they are totally different to God's righteous judgment and wrath. It is good that we are held to account for our rebellion. If anything, this makes me love God even more, for he is a just God.

I will not condemn him, I will love him.

Quote:No. No we do not. Death had been around for several hundreds of millions of years before the earliest man had evolved.


Obviously I disagree.

Quote:Again, moral cowardice.

"I can't tell you why 'God' causes good people to suffer, but you must accept that he knows best and love him anyway. Or go to hell."


Nothing cowardly about it. I recognise that we must all die, but I just don't know why some people suffer more than others.

Quote:It can hardly be deemed to be patience if they have been 'predestined' for hell, can it?


God could strike them down now and send them straight to Hell, but he doesn't, for he is a patient and loving God.

Quote:He won't. Once you've seen that the emperor is naked, it's impossible to ever picture him with clothes on again.


Tell that to the Luke 15:11-32

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Mintball wrote:Except that, in actual history, that hardly ever happened.



about 7000 over the years 250 to 350 from a population of approximately 200, 000 although very few were given to the Lions that was mainly saved for prisoners






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Christianity is the biggest religion with 33.32% of the world following it
Islam 21.01%
Hinduism 13.26%
Other combined Religions 12.48%

Non believers 14.09%

So what happens if you're in the wrong percentile, even if you're a good person?

7 Billion people, so there's a lot of places in hell if you're wrong.






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Durham Giant wrote:about 7000 over the years 250 to 350 from a population of approximately 200, 000 although very few were given to the Lions that was mainly saved for prisoners


Mmm, I wonder how many have been put to death in the name of god by said christian faith since then. The number of books burnt, the number maimed and injured in gos name.






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Horatio Yed wrote:Christianity is the biggest religion with 33.32% of the world following it
Islam 21.01%
Hinduism 13.26%
Other combined Religions 12.48%

Non believers 14.09%

So what happens if you're in the wrong percentile, even if you're a good person?

7 Billion people, so there's a lot of places in hell if you're wrong.


I read somewhere that 15% of Irish Catholics don't believe in God but are still Catholics.






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Horatio Yed wrote:Christianity is the biggest religion with 33.32% of the world following it
Islam 21.01%
Hinduism 13.26%
Other combined Religions 12.48%

Non believers 14.09%

So what happens if you're in the wrong percentile, even if you're a good person?

7 Billion people, so there's a lot of places in hell if you're wrong.


Many of those nominal Christians will also end up in Hell (Matthew 7:22). The other religionists will also go to Hell.

And I'm sorry but none of us are 'good' when you compare us to God. Therefore, we all deserve Hell, including me.

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Sheldon wrote:I read somewhere that 15% of Irish Catholics don't believe in God but are still Catholics.


Dara O'Briain is one of them.






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I'm going to Hell, i've checked the Wire fixtures and it's our first away day.






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