Roddy B wrote:Why do you assume he wants to replicate Barca again? Didn't he cite lack of passion/motivation as one of his reasons for leaving? If he wasn't motivated by a completely dominant side that was cunting the world, maybe a different challenge is what he wants? Guardiola has apparently been keen on a job in England for a while, if he suddenly gets the passion back and Arsenal are the club he fancies, who are we to question the best coach in football?
I don't assume he wants to replicate Barca again, but that's the clear reason that Duke Street suggested Arsenal go for him.
Man City, us, PSG all offer huge finances. Man United offer entrenched power and the chance to build on from Fergie with total support. I'm just not seeing why he'd turn down all the other offers to go to Arsenal. Have Arsenal even run out of patience with Wenger and want him out, or is Guardiola going to be the force to shove him out? Are Arsenal going to stick to their principles of "profit over trophies" or are they going to splash the cash for him? If they are willing to splash the cash for Guardiola, isn't a bit of a kick in the face that Wenger hasn't really been offered that cash?
Dita's Slot Meter wrote:If they go out of the Champions League and continue to struggle in the league, then Rafa won't see Christmas.....It sounds crazy, but it just wouldn't shock me to see John Terry find himself in charge on a temporary basis at some point.
The whole thing is a joke, and as Ray Wilkins pointed out, Abramovich is quickly running out of options as he runs through the file that says 'Top Coaches of World Football'.
He's seemed to have given Ancelotti, AVB and Di Matteo the remit to completely change the playing style of the team, but won't give them the slightest transition period in which to do it.
My worst fear on Wednesday is that Shaktar beat Juve but we go out because we fail to beat Nordellandroad. TBH if that happens, after the three games of dross that we've just put up with, along with the fact he's a fat ****, I think Benitez would have to be turfed out.
Unless a deal has been made for Guardiola, or unless Jose wins the CL and is willing to come home, I really do think we're potentially hitting a wall soon.
Northampton_Saint wrote:Are there any Two-Faced Club-Abandoning Plastic AFC Kingston "fans" on here for me to point and laugh at? Bit of a long shot I know, but I'm a bit bored by the lack of Saints-related activity in the off-season and could do with a gloat...
Conroy wrote:I wanted Wimbledon to win if that counts?
That is because you have been taken in and conned by biased, misinformed, one-sided media reporting and unending bile-filled manipulation of same by a bunch of plastic, whining, two-faced "fans" from Kingston. I forgive you - being from Wigan you clearly have a lot of hard stuff to have to deal with in your life so allowances on my part are only fair They are the same fans who shamelessly abandoned their supposed lifelong club to die when the going got a little bit tough, and went and created a shiny new club to go and glory-hunt after instead. And we're supposed to be the manufactured "franchise" - you couldn't make it up...
Northampton_Saint wrote:That is because you have been taken in and conned by biased, misinformed, one-sided media reporting and unending bile-filled manipulation of same by a bunch of plastic, whining, two-faced "fans" from Kingston. I forgive you - being from Wigan you clearly have a lot of hard stuff to have to deal with in your life so allowances on my part are only fair They are the same fans who shamelessly abandoned their supposed lifelong club to die when the going got a little bit tough, and went and created a shiny new club to go and glory-hunt after instead. And we're supposed to be the manufactured "franchise" - you couldn't make it up...
And the real Dons won anyway. So ner.
I didn't write this but it pretty much sums up my feelings whilst asking the age old question......just who did MK Dons fans support 10 years ago?
Northampton_Saint wrote:That is because you have been taken in and conned by biased, misinformed, one-sided media reporting and unending bile-filled manipulation of same by a bunch of plastic, whining, two-faced "fans" from Kingston. I forgive you - being from Wigan you clearly have a lot of hard stuff to have to deal with in your life so allowances on my part are only fair They are the same fans who shamelessly abandoned their supposed lifelong club to die when the going got a little bit tough, and went and created a shiny new club to go and glory-hunt after instead. And we're supposed to be the manufactured "franchise" - you couldn't make it up...
And the real Dons won anyway. So ner.
I didn't write this but it pretty much sums up my feelings whilst asking the age old question......just who did MK Dons fans support 10 years ago?
Conroy wrote:I didn't write this but it pretty much sums up my feelings whilst asking the age old question......just who did MK Dons fans support 10 years ago?
We support exactly the same clubs now as we supported 10 years ago, plus we now support the Dons as well. Most of us (myself included) are lifelong supporters of big Premier League clubs who can either no longer afford or are simply no longer inclined to want to watch the increasingly ever more shameful money-grubbing farago that that league has become. Some of us are supporters of smaller clubs who can no longer go to them regularly due to geographical/work commitments and so, being real fans who want to actively support a real club, go to our local club instead of sitting in front of a Sky Subscription Channel (an alien concept to your average big club glory-hunter I know). A large number of us are actually ex-Wimbledon (the real one) fans (contrary to what all the propoganda would have you believe) who wanted no part of the two-faced club-abandoners from Kingston.
Anyway: usual biased, one-eyed **** aside, the simple fact is this: 10 years ago nobody wanted Wimbledon FC. Their fans didn't want it, the local councils didn't want it, local businesses didn't want it, potential investors didn't want it, other clubs and their fans didn't want it. Nobody wanted it. But MK did. What is any business (which is all any sports club is these days and let noone delude themselves otherwise) going to do in their situation? Struggle to keep on surviving futilely without investment or a home in an area where they are simply not wanted and have no future, or move 60 miles to where they will have money and facilities and a much larger supporter base lavished on them and will be very much wanted? Answer that question yourself without recourse to some piece of pre-packaged stock propoganda from the embittered pen of some club-abandoning self-loather I dare you.
In 10 years the Dons have gone from derided nomads living a hand-to-mouth existence with no support, to a financially stable club with the best stadium outside the Premiership, with 3 times their old support and the highest number of under-18 year old season ticket holders in the country set to bolster that support massively further in years to come. Could anyone tell me in all honesty if that was a bad move?
AFC Kingston fans abandoned their club to die, but someone else decided they wanted it instead, applied CPR and made it thrive and prosper. On what planet do their plastic fans have any basis to complain about that fact?
And discuss: is there anything more ironic and down right 2 faced on the face of the good, clean earth than being called a "Franchise" and "not a real club" by the likes of Chelski and Scum Utd. and Man. City and Arsenal consumers? I think not...
Conroy wrote:I didn't write this but it pretty much sums up my feelings whilst asking the age old question......just who did MK Dons fans support 10 years ago?
We support exactly the same clubs now as we supported 10 years ago, plus we now support the Dons as well. Most of us (myself included) are lifelong supporters of big Premier League clubs who can either no longer afford or are simply no longer inclined to want to watch the increasingly ever more shameful money-grubbing farago that that league has become. Some of us are supporters of smaller clubs who can no longer go to them regularly due to geographical/work commitments and so, being real fans who want to actively support a real club, go to our local club instead of sitting in front of a Sky Subscription Channel (an alien concept to your average big club glory-hunter I know). A large number of us are actually ex-Wimbledon (the real one) fans (contrary to what all the propoganda would have you believe) who wanted no part of the two-faced club-abandoners from Kingston.
Anyway: usual biased, one-eyed **** aside, the simple fact is this: 10 years ago nobody wanted Wimbledon FC. Their fans didn't want it, the local councils didn't want it, local businesses didn't want it, potential investors didn't want it, other clubs and their fans didn't want it. Nobody wanted it. But MK did. What is any business (which is all any sports club is these days and let noone delude themselves otherwise) going to do in their situation? Struggle to keep on surviving futilely without investment or a home in an area where they are simply not wanted and have no future, or move 60 miles to where they will have money and facilities and a much larger supporter base lavished on them and will be very much wanted? Answer that question yourself without recourse to some piece of pre-packaged stock propoganda from the embittered pen of some club-abandoning self-loather I dare you.
In 10 years the Dons have gone from derided nomads living a hand-to-mouth existence with no support, to a financially stable club with the best stadium outside the Premiership, with 3 times their old support and the highest number of under-18 year old season ticket holders in the country set to bolster that support massively further in years to come. Could anyone tell me in all honesty if that was a bad move?
AFC Kingston fans abandoned their club to die, but someone else decided they wanted it instead, applied CPR and made it thrive and prosper. On what planet do their plastic fans have any basis to complain about that fact?
And discuss: is there anything more ironic and down right 2 faced on the face of the good, clean earth than being called a "Franchise" and "not a real club" by the likes of Chelski and Scum Utd. and Man. City and Arsenal consumers? I think not...
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Talent Spotter wrote:Glory hunting in the combined counties league, or whatever it's called? Yeah, good one.
Watching a club guaranteed to nuke all opposition for the next decade instead of a club slowly rotting away inevitably down into the lower leagues? Sounds a bit like glory hunting to me...
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They are the same fans who shamelessly abandoned their supposed lifelong club to die when the going got a little bit tough, and went and created a shiny new club to go and glory-hunt after instead. And we're supposed to be the manufactured "franchise" - you couldn't make it up...
