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Hull White Star wrote:2 and half years and you're still peddling that Your lot have had 2 and half years to sort out "Labours feckless overspending" without success. Its now time to stop using Labour as an excuse and start seeing that this government is useless.
And as I've told you on the thread on FB that saw you defriend me, wasn't it Thatcher who brought in the "benefit culture", putting people on incapacity benefit when they should have been on the dole actively looking for work???
I listen to Radio 5 a lot when driving around and have noticed that all ConDem politicians only have two answers to questions on the current failing policies
1. 'its because of Labours reckless spending and borrowing'
2. 'the financial problems are global and not our fault'
The choice of answer depends on what they are trying to defend at the time.
Apparently, according to one highly respected financier the borrowing and spending by the last government was an insignificant amount compared to the money lost by banks and the like leading up to the 2008 crash, in fact if Labour had spent only what they brought in and borrowed nothing, we would still be in the $hit as much as we are now.
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Joined: Nov 19 2005 Posts: 2359 Location: Marys Place, near the River, in Nebraska, Waitin' on A Sunny Day
ROBINSON wrote:I can read very well, thank you.
What do you want the Government to do?
So then you'll have read I didn't say it was the governments fault like you accused me of.
I hate it when people ask that question. I don't have a degree in economics, I've never run a country before so it may come as a surprise to you to learn that I don't know technically what they should or shouldn't be doing. What I do know is that they are concentrating on London and the South East without having a clue whats going on up here. I would have thought the first thing would be to find out what is making the companies like Seven Seas move away from the area. Why are Kimberley Clark pulling out of Europe. It doesn't take a rocket scientist (or a towel folder) to be asking these simple questions.
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Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away.
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Hull White Star wrote:Another one who can't read and can't be bothered to read the whole thread along with Standee
I didn't say it was the governments fault, I said they won't give a damn or be prepared to do anything about it other than offer JobCentre+ support which is a given anyway.
Joined: Mar 05 2007 Posts: 13190 Location: Hedon (sometimes), sometimes Premier Inn's
Standee wrote:f'k me you're as boring as your are bitter
I reckon the latter accusation has ruled out the former request
'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
Hull White Star wrote:So then you'll have read I didn't say it was the governments fault like you accused me of.
I hate it when people ask that question. I don't have a degree in economics, I've never run a country before so it may come as a surprise to you to learn that I don't know technically what they should or shouldn't be doing. What I do know is that they are concentrating on London and the South East without having a clue whats going on up here. I would have thought the first thing would be to find out what is making the companies like Seven Seas move away from the area. Why are Kimberley Clark pulling out of Europe. It doesn't take a rocket scientist (or a towel folder) to be asking these simple questions.
Kimberley Clark are pulling out of Europe because HUGGIES aren't selling, can you not read?
Seven Seas are pulling out of Hull because the workforce are stale and inflexible, again, can you not read?
Why are Siemenes reconsidering locating in Hull, would it be a poorly educated and inflexible worforce and a backward looking Council, maybe?
Joined: Nov 19 2005 Posts: 2359 Location: Marys Place, near the River, in Nebraska, Waitin' on A Sunny Day
Standee wrote:f'k me you're as boring as your are bitter
Why am I bitter?? I've got what I want from this government thank you. I have my ESA but more importantly an admission that I am genuinly ill and need support, which is why I have been placed in the support group and not thrown off and told to look for work.
I'll say it again, I have not blamed this government for these firms closing, as someone has rightly pointed out, bad management and low customer sales in Comets case are to blame. What I am saying is I am waiting to see what support the government offers to the workers and firms.
A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself.
When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life.
Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away.
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan
Joined: May 10 2002 Posts: 47951 Location: Die Metropole
ROBINSON wrote:OK but sadly, is there an alternative?
Would the employees, had they had their destiny put in their own hands, made better decisions?
Unfortunately none of us possess a crystal ball.
I didn't suggest that the workforce should make the decisions. Perhaps it's naive, but that what I'd expect management to do – manage. That, we are often told, is why management get paid so much more.
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Joined: Nov 19 2005 Posts: 2359 Location: Marys Place, near the River, in Nebraska, Waitin' on A Sunny Day
Standee wrote:yup, we know, we can see you posting all day, everyday.
I'll shout it from the rooftops because its been a long, hard battle with this government that I sincerely hope never happens to you or yours one day. You may be in the dole queue yourself one day, or have a serious accident on the ski slopes which paralyses you. Would love to see your posts on here then.
A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself.
When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life.
Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away.
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan
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