http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20102766 Penalty for Liverpool and a dodgy red card for an Everton player on Sunday, anyone?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20102766 Penalty for Liverpool and a dodgy red card for an Everton player on Sunday, anyone?

Don't know about the penalty, but we had a dodgy red card last week at QPR, so I'd be a bit miffed if we got another on Sunday.

Personally, I hate Merseyside derbies, we always let ourselves get dragged into all this 100mph, headless chicken stuff and, inevitably, we end up getting beat.

After the semi final defeat in April, I'm firmly of the belief that for Everton, it is definitely a pschyological problem now against Liverpool, because there is no way that Liverpool are a better side than us, which, from recent derbies, is the impression that may be given.

Saying that, I expect another dog's dinner of a game, and confidently predict a goalless draw.

Do you really believe the sh*te you come up with? It is your lot that continually make a dog's dinner of the derby. Your team very rarely come out and try to match us, let alone for 90 minutes. Moyes will do his usual stuff: pack the midfield, play for set plays and corners and try to physically bully Liverpool. We'll do our thing which will probably consist of a lot of quality football with fluffed chances galore.

I think it will be a good game with most of the threat being poses from set pieces by both sides. Can't see us keeping a clean sheet either.

....You actually just confirm what I said - Yes, I agree that we turn up and generally stink the place out and that's the whole point I was making.

Instead of doing what we are actually good at and what we do against any other team, against Liverpool we resort to playing the gallant underdog role and treat Liverpool like they are the Liverpool of the early 80's and not the very average side you have been in recent times....For me, this indicates a massive psychological flaw on both the side's and Moyes' part.

If we actually ignored the fact it was a derby, which of course is quite difficult, and simply played our own game, I'm pretty sure that we would come out on top, however, I just can't see that ever happening.

Not always true. Everton have been on the receiving end of some absolutely horrendous/borderline corrupt refereeing in the derby, especially at Goodison. I've just watched the 07/08 derby at Goodison on ESPN Classic. Liverpool were absolutely shocking but won with two penalties. Everton had two absolute stonewall penalties turned down including one in the final passage of play where Carragher dragged Lescott to the floor. Then you've got the Rodwell red card, which is still the most scandalous piece of refereeing I've ever seen.

I'm just waiting to see who will take Dirk Kuyt's role of winning derbies despite being utterly rubbish. I had Borini penned in for it, but he's not even playing.

Just the same as what Fergie was spouting before their game against Liverpool in September. Only difference is, we won't get the penalty.

But there will definitely be a red card given.

'But the Ulsterman, who has been mocked as football's answer to fictitious television windbag David Brent from The Office for his appearances in a fly-on-the- wall documentary Being: Liverpool' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... black.html

'But the Ulsterman, who has been mocked as football's answer to fictitious television windbag David Brent from The Office for his appearances in a fly-on-the- wall documentary Being: Liverpool' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... black.html

I assume by that comment you mean a decision against your own team, because if you mean football in general then you are talking out of your booty.

But I believe you are talking ****, because most of the Blues***** that I know still believe that Collina's decision against Ferguson in '05 is probably the most scandalous piece of refereeing against Everton.

Everton and Moyes need to lose the inferiority complex with the derbies, they shouldn't have it anymore.

Did you and Martin Atkinson go the the same school of over-reacting?