Both Moyes and Wenger haven't lasted their reigns out of any special loyalty or correct methods of the club directors. It's just that their work has deserved the tenures they've had. But throw in a couple of non-CL qualifications for Wenger, or a couple of serious scrapes with relegation for Moyes, and they would have been at the risk of firing just like they would at any club.

Same with Fergie at United. He was close to the chop in his early years at United because the results weren't as good as the club needed. It was as much by luck than judgement that things turned around and he'd emerge into one of the most successful managers ever.

But these reigns are the exception. And Wenger and Ferguson are two exceptional managers, with Moyes being an excellent mid table boss, with the potential to be something more. But you don't treat every manager like they've been treated, because most of them don't deserve it.

Mark Halsey has complained to the police about twitter abuse he received after the game yesterday. What a horrible grass, he's gonna get proper booed every time he's at Anfield now

loyalty works both ways - Everton have shown loyalty to Moysie despite some dodgy moments so Kenwright & board have been vindicated by showing consistency and giving the manager time - Moyse has also shown loyalty as he must have had some decent offers over the years but maybe the BIG one, soon to become vacant (well, he cant live forever, can he ?) will be too good an offer to turn down.....

sad news about Martin Kelly at LFC, out till next year with knee problems following that innocuous looking fall

get well soon mate

Aye fairy muff. Not sure he'll get offered that job. He could be a cheap option for the Glazers but they don't strike me as the kind of folk that would give somebody who has won nothing the reins at one of the biggest sporting businesses in the world. It'd be like appointing a store manager from Haydock Spar to manage Harrod's.

Gutted for him. Doesn't matter whether people rate him or not, to get where he's got to considering the injuries he's had throughout his career, he really does deserve huge respect. Hope he comes back better than ever, he's a good lad so he shouldn't go the way of Michael Johnson, but it must be crushing for him.

He might be a good, low risk, low cost sacrificial lamb. A lot of the very top managers would turn the job down post-Ferguson, particularly if he has success before he retires. Bring Moyes in and he either does well and carries on Fergie's legacy or he doesn't and he takes the fall. A new manager can then be brought in to 'fix' things rather than having to come in and live up to Ferguson.

Its a slightly, but significantly, different charge to the court case. He was charged by the CPS with using racially abusive language likely to cause alarm or distress. He was acquitted on the basis, that although he accepted using the language, it wasnt proven that it would have been likely to cause alarm or distress, because of the context. The FA charge is that he used racially abusive language. Nothing about it causing alarm or distress. The context, whether Ferdinand was likely to be offended, is irrelevant.

If it hadnt been for the Suarez case I'm sure the FA would have let the matter drop. But because of the Suarez case and the justification for that verdict (ie that the context is irrelevant, its only what he said that matters) the FA didnt have much option than to bring the charge. Otherwise they would have been wide open to the accusation of treating Suarez unfairly compared to Terry.

If Moyes comes in and fails then Fergie's shadow is still going to loom over the incoming manager.

Not exactly similar, especially because he's still around, but Mourinho's shadow still looms over Stamford Bridge, and he was only there for 3 1/2 years.

If none of the to level will take the job when it's available then Moyes might get it, but any of them want it and they'll be chosen before him.

Reckon Ancellotti could be a good fit for United if he wins titles and does respectable in the CL at PSG.

I know that scousers like to deny this, but the panel rejected Suarez's "cultural differences" excuse because of the repetition of the comments. He might have got away with it if it was one use, but Evra had clearly got pi55ed off and he carried on.

The legal charges are obviously going to be different to the FA charges. There's practically no way that legal language can ever meet fully the FA rules. But this case is close enough to mean that if it doesn't apply in this case, then will it never apply. And right now the FA need to answer why they don't have to follow their own rules when they were the ones who wrote the rules in the first place.

In many ways if the FA did have to withdraw the case because of rule 6.8 that would have been a victory and a loss for Terry though. While he wouldn't have been punished by the FA, he would still carry the public verdict of guilty because he would have got off on a legal technicality. At least now he has the chance to clear his name. But how much of a chance he is actually getting is questionable. And whether his name would ever be clear even if this tribunal came with a not guilty verdict is just as questionable.

Another question the FA need to answer is why Anton Ferdinand isn't up on the foul and abusive language charge along with Terry. Ferdinand was equally guilty of that as Terry clearly was. I don't accept whatsoever the notion that you can't use witness testimony to damn someone. They are potentially using the testimony of a person declared not guilty to damn him. The events as told to the courts by both parties had Ferdinand as the instigator, the cause of the argument and the first one to use foul and abusive language. He was only the witness because he wasn't on camera.