Mrs D took junior back to school today. One of the nurses was horrified by the incompetence of the two hospitals. Hospital 1 stuck a dressing on with the wrong tape but worse hospital 2's Max-Fac specialist put a dry rather than wet dressing on the wound (against what hospital 1 had previously got right). In consquence, school took half an hour to carefully remove the dressing that had stuck to the wound, whilst junior was screaming in pain. As Mr Max-Fac wants junior to go back a week to day, he'll no doubt get a piece of Mrs D's mind!
Dally wrote:Having spent most of Saturday in two hospital A&E departments, a number of things struck me:
1. When I used to go years ago you could see why people were there - broken limbs, blood eveywhere, etc. Nowadays, they are jam packed but not with that sort of case. 2. Mrs Dally thinks it's because doctors no longer do out of hours work and so people with minor ailments go to A&E. 3. White, middle class British types are under-represented - presumably because they are risk-averse, play by the rules, etc. 4. On Saturday evening the place we were at was rammed and Mrs D counted only 8 white people, 5 of whom were Polish. None of the staff were white and English. The one white nurse was Irish, all other nurses / doctors were from ethnic "minorities" (sic). 5. Many self-inflicted case - men dangerously drunk at 2.00pm, and vomitting, for example.
1/ no idea what you are getting at, but saurday is still the main sporting day, hence, the more chance of injury. 2/ doctors still work out of hours, but some do private work aswell, others think that working 60+ hours/ week is enough. 3/ white middle/class are proberley private protected ( health-wise) 4/ 8 people in A+E and the place was rammed???? On a saturday? Staff werent white or English because they were neither. Obviously Asians who had desires to be doctors and nurses, and thus, had undertaken the training needed to do so. 5/ Because we have a NHS, everyone is entitalled to mediacal help, though I must agree, druggies can rot in their cess for all I care.
Live Wired wrote:1/ no idea what you are getting at, but saurday is still the main sporting day, hence, the more chance of injury. 2/ doctors still work out of hours, but some do private work aswell, others think that working 60+ hours/ week is enough. 3/ white middle/class are proberley private protected ( health-wise) 4/ 8 people in A+E and the place was rammed???? On a saturday? Staff werent white or English because they were neither. Obviously Asians who had desires to be doctors and nurses, and thus, had undertaken the training needed to do so. 5/ Because we have a NHS, everyone is entitalled to mediacal help, though I must agree, druggies can rot in their cess for all I care.
1. The point I was making was it was Saturday and there were no sporting, etc injuries but the place was still packed. 2. Clearly not enough. 3. I don't know of health cover that covers A&E requirements. 4. No, 8 white people. Loads of other people. 5. Yes but it seems to me that triage does not usually prioritise the potentially serious cases over the self-inflicted and non-serious. That's what I find wrong not the access to treatment for all.
I think for people who turn up to A&E rather than going through GPs there needs to be sanctions. It would be wrong to charge them because that may put off people in genuine need who play by the rules. Maybe each person / family should have a scorecard and when they've done it 2 or 3 times they should be charged?
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Dally wrote:My point is, why is there a disproportinate use of A&E by some people?
You should fooking know. You're never out of the place with them offspring of yours.
I've only ever been to a doctors/hospital, for my own needs, once in the last 35 years. It'll be just my luck to be stuck in a queue behinds the likes of your tribe, if and when I require assistance.
Dally, if I have an injury or painful condition I don't give a toss what colour, religion or nationality the medical staff in A & E are as long as they are qualified and treat my problem.
dr_feelgood wrote:Dally, if I have an injury or painful condition I don't give a toss what colour, religion or nationality the medical staff in A & E are as long as they are qualified and treat my problem.
WIZEB wrote:You should fooking know. You're never out of the place with them offspring of yours.
I've only ever been to a doctors/hospital, for my own needs, once in the last 35 years. It'll be just my luck to be stuck in a queue behinds the likes of your tribe, if and when I require assistance.
I've edited that post to better explain what I intended to say.
Alot of our visits are due to parademics getting called. They always insist on taking junior to hospital even when we don't want to. The problem with going to hospital when there is no actual injury is that we may as well be taking double-Dutch as none of the doctors have a clue what we are talking about as junior's condition is beyond their knowledge and expertise.
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