And she never gained a majority of the votes cast.


No argument from me there.

What better day to bury bad news? Gove sanctions unqualified teachers to teach in academies Happy with them making profits though. Edumacation is safe under the tories.

What better day to bury bad news? Gove sanctions unqualified teachers to teach in academies Happy with them making profits though. Edumacation is safe under the tories.

El Barbudo wrote:Ajw71 is making a classic error of logic. Erm, 8 polls which all rank Thatcher in the top 5. The logical conclusion from this is that she was one of the best prime minsisters. Pretty simple really. El Barbudo wrote:There are probably polls out there about who was the worst Prime Minister ... and I'd put money on the witch being top of that one. I am not going to look for such a poll because it would probably have as many failings as the ones that Ajw71 has mentioned.... and prove nothing. Check the other end of my polls for your answer. Thatcher is nowhere near the bottom in any of them. El Barbudo wrote:I think I'll stick with General Election results ... in which more people thought that someone else was better to run the country than she and I very much doubt those people have changed their minds. Strange point this, as you can say this about every single prime minister since 1945. http://www.politicsresources.net/area/u ... ntvote.htm In every single election since 1945, more people thought someone else would be better as PM rather than the person who was elected. This isn't unique to Thatcher as you imply.

El Barbudo wrote:Ajw71 is making a classic error of logic. Erm, 8 polls which all rank Thatcher in the top 5. The logical conclusion from this is that she was one of the best prime minsisters. Pretty simple really. El Barbudo wrote:There are probably polls out there about who was the worst Prime Minister ... and I'd put money on the witch being top of that one. I am not going to look for such a poll because it would probably have as many failings as the ones that Ajw71 has mentioned.... and prove nothing. Check the other end of my polls for your answer. Thatcher is nowhere near the bottom in any of them. El Barbudo wrote:I think I'll stick with General Election results ... in which more people thought that someone else was better to run the country than she and I very much doubt those people have changed their minds. Strange point this, as you can say this about every single prime minister since 1945. http://www.politicsresources.net/area/u ... ntvote.htm In every single election since 1945, more people thought someone else would be better as PM rather than the person who was elected. This isn't unique to Thatcher as you imply.

The lack of calcium has clearly had an effect.. It just reminds me this, how horrible, mean and nasty the Tories under Thatcher were. They were also incredibly useless. Caused a war, country bankrupt, riots all over the shop, supporters of apartheid, just how anyone with the slightest bit of sense could think Thatcher was anything other than a nut job needs to take a good long look at themselves.

So because she became unpopular in some quarters at the end of her tenure we are supposed to forget all the good she did?

Doesn't really work like that.

If I cured cancer, the common cold and won 3 nobel peace prizes then slept with Kate Middleton. I might become unpopular for commiting adultery but I've still cured cancer, the common cold and won 3 nobel peace prizes.

In the cold light of hindsight she didn't do much good though.

She sold off the family silver, put millions out of work, wrote off at least one generation, spend billions trying to prop up the ERM, cost lives by defending tiny islands thousands of miles away, started the housing boom, destroyed communities and put us on the long slow slide to being a nation that knows the price of everything but the value of nowt.

So no, I don't forget the good she did, I never saw any good and if you'd have lived through it you wouldn't either.

There wasn't any

All the good for who exactly? Not me or my family, nor the ordinary man on the street or his family. A lot like todays lot.

Only to a simpleton

She wasn't just "unpopular in some quarters", she couldn't find an ally even in her own political party and still she tried to hang onto power - thats what power does to a person when you have no opposition, it corrupts.

So wrapped up in her self esteem was she that those tears outside Downing St were actually real, she really could not believe that her own party had just fired her, as far as she was concerned she was doing a great job and leading us down a road towards her utopian vista - it was just everyone else, EVERYONE else who didn't want to go there.

You need to go back to your books and read up on what a right wing dictatorship could look like in the early 90s, I keep mentioning Pinochet because he was an absolute hero of hers and a definite role model, you could do worse than to read up on that regime in order to realise where we were heading as a country while you were still pre-school, and then (and I never thought I'd say this) thank Heseltine for growing some balls and standing up to her.

Thatcher should also thank Heseltine for letting her slip out of Downing St in a car with Dennis, her best friend Pinochet would have had her shot.