QI klaxon. -10 points for Gilder

Because they're a bunch of money-grabbing c***s.

As for Bopara... I think I could stand there for 6 balls until one was straight or caught the edge of my bat. Bloody useless.

Got him! Classic set-up by the Burnley Bolt. Outswinger, outswinger, inswinger, out.

Well yes, that was my conclusion as well. Still, I'll probably go which is why they can charge that as they know people will go. Same with football.

WTF is going on at Lancashire???

Right, what have we learnt so far??

1. SA's bowling attack is better than ours.

2. SA's batting line up is better than ours.

3. A combination of 1 & 2.

Personally, I'm edging towards option 3, though I don't think there is much between the batting, except for our problem number 6 spot.....Our bowling though is looking a bit thin on options and toothless.....I've said it before, but an extra bowler and Prior upto 6 might have to be considered, especially if we lose this match.

This has 'draw' all over it surely?

England will have to bat last on a wearing pitch chasing a decent sized deficit. Thankfully they don't have a class spinner.

SA have had the best of the batting conditions, but England's lack of penetration when the ball doesn't swing is worrying.

Andy Gilder wrote:England will have to bat last on a wearing pitch chasing a decent sized deficit. Thankfully they don't have a class spinner. I know that, but even England can't collapse enough to lose can they? We thought Mitchell Johnson's bowling was bad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocEnKXCJgnw

Andy Gilder wrote:England will have to bat last on a wearing pitch chasing a decent sized deficit. Thankfully they don't have a class spinner. I know that, but even England can't collapse enough to lose can they? We thought Mitchell Johnson's bowling was bad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocEnKXCJgnw

Yes, I'd say the draw is a pretty warm favourite, but there is only one side that can win it from here.

What is worrying is that this South Africa side are proving again that they are far superior to us, as they have done in the last 2 series in which we have met (Yes, we wangled a draw in our last tour there, but overall we were comfortably the inferior side).