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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:48 am 
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Roofs wrote:A young rookie named The 123 Kid (who would become Xpac years later) cleanly pinning established star Razor Ramon (Scott Hall).


You mean 'The Kid'? He only became the 1-2-3 kid after picking up said win :wink:

Was a really good feud between the two IIRC as well.






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Conroy wrote:You mean 'The Kid'? He only became the 1-2-3 kid after picking up said win :wink:

Was a really good feud between the two IIRC as well.


I stand corrected. :oops: Absolutely, and who knows its something that could perhaps still work today if it was done correctly - put a young unproven guy over an established star to get 'the rub.' It certainly didn't harm Ramon's WWF career.

Re Raw, I think the return of 'DX' (at the moment they're only advertising HBK and HHH for this) would be 10x better if the rumours are true about the Outlaws also being there on Mon, anyone agree?

Hey did anyone watch the C4 doc on British wrestling (the Knight family) last night? :)






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new there was something i had to watch the other night :twisted:

thought mitb was quite prodictable imo

there has been that many raw moment over the years its hard to pick






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Roofs wrote:At the time I loved it when DX reunited (HHH, Road Dogg, Billy Gunn and XPac but not Chyna) on Raw in late 99 and beat down Austin and Rock. However when you look back now you kinda feel like all involved (inc Tori at a later stage) where presented as lackies for HHH (who was getting over huge admittedly).

As an old-school Raw fan I have two great memories before the Attitude Era too:

A young rookie named The 123 Kid (who would become Xpac years later) cleanly pinning established star Razor Ramon (Scott Hall).

Marty Jannetty returning and pinning his old tag-team partner HBK for the IC belt (which IMO meant so much more back then than the belt does now).

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Mine was the night that The Rock and Mankind tried to lead a revolt against the McMohan-Helmsley era.
Followed by the night that SCSA blew up The Rocks car by dropping it off a forklift.






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Roofs wrote:I stand corrected. :oops: Absolutely, and who knows its something that could perhaps still work today if it was done correctly - put a young unproven guy over an established star to get 'the rub.' It certainly didn't harm Ramon's WWF career.


Absolutely. I'd rather see a feud like this than numerous 'John Cena v' type situations.






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Conroy wrote:Absolutely. I'd rather see a feud like this than numerous 'John Cena v' type situations.


Well I have to say that despite the way 'Superman' Cena has ran WWE since 2005 I was still shocked he won at closed the show at MITB. FFS, how long is this guy's run gonna last? Okay he seems a nice bloke and yes he's a great role model for kids, but to have sacrificed so many guys to him over the years is just criminal. I suppose though that for as long as his merch shifts his run will continue. Speaking of which, he must have matched Austin and Rock's sales by now, simply because Cena's main event run has lasted double the time of each of theirs.

I think I read a rumour by the way that a new WWE title belt may be appearing for the first time at RAW 1000 to finally end the spinner belt. Unfortunately from the pic I saw it still looks awful, bring back Bret Hart's 'winged-eagle' title I say, best belt ever. :)






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Roofs wrote:I think I read a rumour by the way that a new WWE title belt may be appearing for the first time at RAW 1000 to finally end the spinner belt. Unfortunately from the pic I saw it still looks awful, bring back Bret Hart's 'winged-eagle' title I say, best belt ever. :)


It does seem strange that they referenced the design on Monday night. Just like everything else, the old school belts were the best designs by far. When Cody Rhodes brought the old IC title back I was hoping they were going to revert to type on them all. The new tag titles for example are woeful compared to the early 90's ones.






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Conroy wrote:It does seem strange that they referenced the design on Monday night. Just like everything else, the old school belts were the best designs by far. When Cody Rhodes brought the old IC title back I was hoping they were going to revert to type on them all. The new tag titles for example are woeful compared to the early 90's ones.


Definitely, I'd even go further and say that the current tag titles and spinner belt don't even really look like wrestling belts (same with the Divas belt actually!). If they hadn't brought back the awesome IC belt I'd say maybe all these new ones were another attempt to distance themselves from 'wrestling' as much as possible, something I don't feel they'll ever be able to do.

Hey WWE sure have embraced social media lately haven't they, considering a year or two ago they slated it and the people who used it were 'nerds.' (anything to improve business eh Vince). :roll: :lol:

I'm sorry, just realised that my last few posts about wrestling have all been negative. On a positive note, the C4 documentary was excellent and gave an honest and accurate picture of a particular British wrestling family (the Knights). The youngest of the family (Britani) is apparently doing well on NXT at the moment as Paige (remarkable for a 19 year old Brit to get that far so quick IMO), and am also looking forward to Mystery & Mayhem at the Bonus Arena this Sunday, finally seeing Kendo Negasaki in person 19 years after he failed to appear as advertised at Hull City Hall. :NAUGHTY: :lol: :)






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IIRC she's been aligned with Raquel Diaz (Shaul Guerrero, daughter of Eddie & Vickie) or was at first anyway.

Kenneth Cameron of the Ascension comes from that well known wrestling hotbed of Chesterfield also. He practically stole my brother's dream. :lol:

Edit: This article just popped up on my news feed: http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/258209- ... -on-hennig
IIRC she's been aligned with Raquel Diaz (Shaul Guerrero, daughter of Eddie & Vickie) or was at first anyway.

Kenneth Cameron of the Ascension comes from that well known wrestling hotbed of Chesterfield also. He practically stole my brother's dream. :lol:

Edit: This article just popped up on my news feed: http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/258209- ... -on-hennig






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got a fantastic write up in the daily star regarding ngws event on sunday with Alpha Female going against winter

oh and seen as nobody eles has said it yet chavo has signed for tna and wrestled last night on impact






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