Joined: Nov 29 2008 Posts: 1318 Location: Kirkstall, Leeds
This thread will not go the way of previous discussions. The validity or truth of certain world views should not be debated here. This is about religious freedom. I pray the Mods agree with this.
This thread will not go the way of previous discussions. The validity or truth of certain world views should not be debated here. This is about religious freedom. I pray the Mods agree with this.
Post subject: Re: Religion in public life - criminal?
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:43 pm
JerryChicken
International Star
Joined: Jul 09 2012 Posts: 3605 Location: Leeds
Whether it does or not is up to you and you alone, if you want to debate the topic of whether or not you should be allowed to express your religious views then the discussion is going to be a very short one, the answer is Yes.
The answer is also Yes to everyone else who wishes to express their religious views too - what you have to do is to accept that you, and everyone else, are not necessarily correct in your view, but its your view none the less.
To answer your question on whether religion should play a part in public life I would answer No, and if I asked you whether or not a person with a religious view that you opposed should be allowed to maintain a position in public life where his/her religion affected their public decisions, then you would probably agree with me.
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Post subject: Re: Religion in public life - criminal?
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:41 pm
Sheldon
Club Owner
Joined: Mar 26 2006 Posts: 22320 Location: York
You can't debate with bigots.
Tarquin Fuego wrote: I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old.
The Reason wrote:Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Post subject: Re: Religion in public life - criminal?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:32 am
Rock God X
Player Coach
Joined: Oct 21 2006 Posts: 10852
Absolutely no way whatsoever that religion should have any sort of platform/influence in government or education. There should be complete separation of church and state - no exceptions. Aside from that, I don't give a toss what they do.
Christianity: because you're so awful you made God kill himself.
Post subject: Re: Religion in public life - criminal?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:37 am
the cal train
International Star
Joined: May 12 2011 Posts: 3338 Location: West Hull
religion should have no influence above any other source of influence, on anything, and should be open to as much criticism and cross examination as any opinion. But that doesn't happen, a lot of the time, as the religious discrimination card gets played as soon as 'reliable sources' is mentioned.
All men are created equal, some work harder in preseason. -Emmitt Smith
Post subject: Re: Religion in public life - criminal?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:39 am
Sheldon
Club Owner
Joined: Mar 26 2006 Posts: 22320 Location: York
Rock God X wrote:Absolutely no way whatsoever that religion should have any sort of platform/influence in government or education. There should be complete separation of church and state - no exceptions. Aside from that, I don't give a toss what they do.
I do, they have to abide by the same rules as the rest of us.
Tarquin Fuego wrote: I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old.
The Reason wrote:Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Post subject: Re: Religion in public life - criminal?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:11 am
Sandro II Terrorista
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
Off to church kirkstaller?
Not had enough martyrdom this week?
People can say what they like, but if you climb up a ladder and start shouting out hateful bigoted mumbo jumbo thinking that you're justified to do that because Barry Sandals has esoterically granted you a licence for such activities from two thousand years ago, don't be surprised if you are quite correctly arrested.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Post subject: Re: Religion in public life - criminal?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:34 am
Mr. Zucchini Head
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 08 2006 Posts: 12099
Sandra The Terrorist wrote:Off to church kirkstaller?
Not had enough martyrdom this week?
People can say what they like, but if you climb up a ladder and start shouting out hateful bigoted mumbo jumbo thinking that you're justified to do that because Barry Sandals has esoterically granted you a licence for such activities from two thousand years ago, don't be surprised if you are quite correctly arrested.
Post subject: Re: Religion in public life - criminal?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:02 am
Rock God X
Player Coach
Joined: Oct 21 2006 Posts: 10852
Sheldon wrote:
Rock God X wrote:Absolutely no way whatsoever that religion should have any sort of platform/influence in government or education. There should be complete separation of church and state - no exceptions. Aside from that, I don't give a toss what they do.
I do, they have to abide by the same rules as the rest of us.
That was covered in my first statement. No influence in matters of the state includes no exemptions from following rules/laws the rest of us have to follow.
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