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 Post subject: The depressing inevitability of Julian Assange's fate
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:56 am 
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I see our esteemed legal system has all but handed over Assange to Sweden on the dubious strength of a French interpretation of an English word. And surprise, surprise Hilary Clinton has out-of-the-blue announced she will be visiting Sweden in the coming weeks.

With rumours of a secret indictment circulating in the US it looks like Mr. Wikileaks is doomed unless his appeal is successful within the next 14 days.

I must say the utter spinelessness of our politicians is staggering. So far I've written three letters querying our treatment of Assange (two to my MP and one to man directly responsible prosecutions of this nature) and all of them have been met with Sphinx-like apathy. It's-all-in-the-hands-of-people-who-know-better-so-shut-up-and-don't-worry blah blah blah.

Assange must feel like one of those infamous characters from the past such as Captain Kidd or Jugurtha who thought they could take liberties with the hegemon of the day and then, to their horror, saw the slow but certain force of power emerge like some lumbering beast from the Cretaceous and snap its colossal jaws shut.

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Isn't the problem that we don't seem to have the autonomous powers to reject the European arrest warrants, no matter how spurious.






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I know very little about the case but can I just ask whats the problem with him going to Sweden? It's hardly a country without a legal system.






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Sheldon wrote:I know very little about the case but can I just ask whats the problem with him going to Sweden? It's hardly a country without a legal system.


From what I have seen, it seems to be fears he will get extradited to Uncle Sam easier from Sweden, some believe its a done deal.






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rover49 wrote:From what I have seen, it seems to be fears he will get extradited to Uncle Sam easier from Sweden, some believe its a done deal.


Easier that our extradition treaty? I doubt that.






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Sheldon wrote:I know very little about the case but can I just ask whats the problem with him going to Sweden? It's hardly a country without a legal system.


indeed, what possible reason has the UK got for not sending him for a trial in Sweden? If he is guilty of rape in Sweden, he should be dealt with by the Swedes - it has nothing to do with the UK.






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EHW wrote:indeed, what possible reason has the UK got for not sending him for a trial in Sweden?


He's not been charged.

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Mugwump wrote:He's not been charged.


So is this a unusual act, for a person to be extradited do they need to be charged?






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The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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They should just send him direct to the US. What good does the kind of information he leaked do anyone? There are certain aspects of the truth that people just don't need to know. Releasing classified war material about campaigns that are still ongoing is completely unacceptable, irrespective of whether there are moral horrors being committed. He's undoubtedly broken several thousand laws across the world so I don't see why we should protect him from Uncle Sam.

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Big Graeme wrote:Easier that our extradition treaty? I doubt that.


Have the US requested his extradition from Britain ?






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