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He does not, however, suggest a solution and, indeed, touches on the problems that interference have caused.
I very much suspect many would prefer Assad to remain in power anyway – better the devil you know etc – especially with the growing political power of the Muslim Brotherhood (and others) in Egypt and questions still waiting to be answered about what that will mean.
He does not, however, suggest a solution and, indeed, touches on the problems that interference have caused.
I very much suspect many would prefer Assad to remain in power anyway – better the devil you know etc – especially with the growing political power of the Muslim Brotherhood (and others) in Egypt and questions still waiting to be answered about what that will mean.
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Fisk is right, but I completely disagree that we are "allowing" anything. In the context of all the various things which are going on in many sovereign states around the globe, saying we are "allowing" all those things is not a fair or correct use of "allowing". They aren't under our control.
Fisk is right, but I completely disagree that we are "allowing" anything. In the context of all the various things which are going on in many sovereign states around the globe, saying we are "allowing" all those things is not a fair or correct use of "allowing". They aren't under our control.
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Post subject: Re: President Assad and Mrs. al-Assad
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:49 pm
Mintball
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Ferocious Aardvark wrote:Fisk is right, but I completely disagree that we are "allowing" anything. In the context of all the various things which are going on in many sovereign states around the globe, saying we are "allowing" all those things is not a fair or correct use of "allowing". They aren't under our control.
Very good point.
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Post subject: Re: President Assad and Mrs. al-Assad
Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:09 pm
David Titan
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Quote:How about what you would suggest?
I suggest the commencement of air strikes on military targets in Syria, akin to the operations in Libya.
Quote:You want to bomb more people? You want to invade, perhaps?
Yese i am all for bombing mass murderers and tyrants.
Quote:Where next? Anywhere else with nasty leaders who do nasty things?
Iran. Then any other dictatorship.
Quote:The interfering of nations in the internal politics of other sovereign states has frequently worsened such situations in the past – see Iran as but one example – why would it be any different this time?
Generally the interference of nations in the internal politics of other sovereign states has improved the situation: (1) Germany was better once we had de-nazified it, (2) Japan has been more peaceful and friendly since we removed its government in 1945, (3) Eastern Europe is much freer, more prosperous and friendlier since we interfered to undermine the tyranny of the socialists, (4) Afghanistan poses much less of a threat to Western security since we demolished all the Al-Qaeda training camps, (5) Iraq has been much friendlier to the West since we removed Saddam Hussein.
In contrast we have not interfered in Iran - it remains a bitter enemy committed to regional hegemony, nuclear weaponry and the support of terrorist organisations, nor North Korea which continues to post a threat to the stability of the Pacific.
Quote:On top of that, consider this: in this age of austerity, what additional services would you cut to fund those bombs or invasions?
Post subject: Re: President Assad and Mrs. al-Assad
Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:21 am
Mugwump
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Are we really going to fall for this con trick again?
I mean, Assad is a pretty sh!tty guy but there's nothing new here. Once again the BBC and the usual crop of major domestic news outlets are playing their roles of war propagandists. The Beeb has been running front page, position one stories on Syria for months whilst any number of atrocities are taking place in other parts of the world.
Post subject: Re: President Assad and Mrs. al-Assad
Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 4:00 pm
rover49
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Mugwump wrote:Are we really going to fall for this con trick again?
I mean, Assad is a pretty sh!tty guy but there's nothing new here. Once again the BBC and the usual crop of major domestic news outlets are playing their roles of war propagandists. The Beeb has been running front page, position one stories on Syria for months whilst any number of atrocities are taking place in other parts of the world.
Most likely to have an impact on the west, laudable as it is to be concerned at atrocities being carried out with machetes on some remote border in Africa or South America, it is not hurting our national interests as the politicians see it.
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