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 Post subject: Re: Coalition For Marriage
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:17 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Coalition For Marriage
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:18 pm 
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gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:It's not anti-christian, it's anti-bigot.

There's a difference?

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 Post subject: Re: Coalition For Marriage
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:21 pm 
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gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:It's not anti-christian, it's anti-bigot.


Christianity is not bigotry.

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kirkstaller wrote:I'm willing to defend the campaign but a simple "thanks, but no thanks" would have sufficed, rather than a load of anti-Christian abuse.


I can't see one post thats anti christian. You cannot post something as contentious as you have without sparking some sort of debate, afterall this is a forum for debate.

Just a few points on your petition:

People should not feel pressurised to go along with same-sex marriage just because of political correctness.

No, people go along with same sex marriage because we live in a society that (on the whole) doesn't descriminate. Doesn't it say in the bible love thy neighbour and God doesn't descriminate?

They should be free to express their views

Just like people are doing on here you mean?

the consultation provides an opportunity for members of the public to say they do not agree with redefining marriage.

There are 70 million people in the UK and you have 500,000 signatures. That means 69.5 million haven't agreed with you. You are in the minority here.

If marriage is redefined, those who believe in traditional marriage will be sidelined


For me to understand your campain better and make an informed decision could you please explain how you think I as a married woman will be sidelined when I know for a fact I will not be sidelined as I'm not as bigoted as you.

It's not discriminatory to support traditional marriage. Same-sex couples may choose to have a civil partnership but no one has the right to redefine marriage for the rest of us.

The first line is rather contradictory to the rest of the sentance imo. You are trying to persuade us you are not being descrimatory then go on to be descimatory by saying same sex couples can only be allowed to have a civil partnership but because its a same sex union they can't get married. And by "rest of us" I assume you are talking about hetrosexual couples? No discrimation there then.

If your views are "Christian" then I'm glad I'm not in your gang.






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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:09 pm 
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kirkstaller wrote:Christianity is not bigotry.


I must've missed the memo when christians became the sole owners and definers of the ancient and aboriginal ceremony of marriage.

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Hull White Star wrote:Just a few points on your petition:
No, people go along with same sex marriage because we live in a society that (on the whole) doesn't descriminate. Doesn't it say in the bible love thy neighbour and God doesn't descriminate?


I come up against this argument a lot. Do you think God would disagree with Christians saying theft or murder is wrong? No, he wouldn't. Sin is sin. Loving thy neighbour is doing as you would be done. I would hope my fellow brothers would strive to correct me if I were sinning.

Hull White Star wrote:They should be free to express their views

Just like people are doing on here you mean?


I agree, freedom of speech is important. However I reserve the right to admonish those who abuse it to libel my viewpoint.

Hull White Star wrote:the consultation provides an opportunity for members of the public to say they do not agree with redefining marriage.

There are 70 million people in the UK and you have 500,000 signatures. That means 69.5 million haven't agreed with you. You are in the minority here.


No.

A counter-petition exists. It has in the region of ~25,000 signatories. So who is in the minority?

Hull White Star wrote:
If marriage is redefined, those who believe in traditional marriage will be sidelined


For me to understand your campain better and make an informed decision could you please explain how you think I as a married woman will be sidelined when I know for a fact I will not be sidelined as I'm not as bigoted as you.


You will have you marriage labelled as being the same as a plainly sinful union.

Hull White Star wrote:It's not discriminatory to support traditional marriage. Same-sex couples may choose to have a civil partnership but no one has the right to redefine marriage for the rest of us.

The first line is rather contradictory to the rest of the sentance imo. You are trying to persuade us you are not being descrimatory then go on to be descimatory by saying same sex couples can only be allowed to have a civil partnership but because its a same sex union they can't get married. And by "rest of us" I assume you are talking about hetrosexual couples? No discrimation there then.


Again, you're getting hooked up on discrimination. I believe same-sex relations to be wrong. Do you think society discriminates against murderers or rapists by sending them to prison?

Hull White Star wrote:If your views are "Christian" then I'm glad I'm not in your gang.


That is your prerogative. I can but share the Good News.

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:20 pm 
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kirkstaller wrote:Over 500,000 have signed the petition.


Only the bigots responsible for this petition have been a little less than honest in how many people have actually signed the petition and it appears that they have been fudging the data somewhat.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/04/08/an ... ntruthful/

And yes it is a gay website but don't worry you won't turn gay by clicking on the link.
kirkstaller wrote:Over 500,000 have signed the petition.


Only the bigots responsible for this petition have been a little less than honest in how many people have actually signed the petition and it appears that they have been fudging the data somewhat.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/04/08/an ... ntruthful/

And yes it is a gay website but don't worry you won't turn gay by clicking on the link.






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kirkstaller wrote:Do you think society discriminates against murderers or rapists by sending them to prison?


:CRAZY: Because that's the same thing isn't it? :roll:

You've just embarassed yourself by stating that people who choose to share their love with someone of the same sex are equivilant to those who take a life or violate others against their will. Any credability you may have had just flew out the window.

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Gareth1984 wrote:Only the bigots responsible for this petition have been a little less than honest in how many people have actually signed the petition and it appears that they have been fudging the data somewhat.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/04/08/an ... ntruthful/

And yes it is a gay website but don't worry you won't turn gay by clicking on the link.


Gay site tries to debase majority opinion shock!
Gareth1984 wrote:Only the bigots responsible for this petition have been a little less than honest in how many people have actually signed the petition and it appears that they have been fudging the data somewhat.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/04/08/an ... ntruthful/

And yes it is a gay website but don't worry you won't turn gay by clicking on the link.


Gay site tries to debase majority opinion shock!

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 Post subject: Re: Coalition For Marriage
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its just not worth arguing with a bigot suffering from religious delusion. I have no problem with anyone believing any crap they like but when they attempt impose their supernatural views on the lives of other people they cross the line

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