Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
We're a team in progress.
We're building for the future.
Let's keep a little perspective.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
The annoying thing for me is the missed tackles, we keep going up top, one on one and coming off 2nd best, attacking wise we look ok, but the defence has to be sorted asap.
He's right though, we are a team in progress, New coach, New players, New plays and structures, its just taking a hell of a lot longer to bed in then everyone thought.
Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
Mrs Barista wrote:2008 called. They want their platitudes back.
Call it as you will, success doesn't happen over night, I'd allude to Hull's lack of titles but it's a little more complex than that as I shall illustrate in my next missive.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Joined: Jul 10 2011 Posts: 1479 Location: Converting the west to the promised land
bishops finger wrote:He's right though, we are a team in progress, New coach, New players, New plays and structures, its just taking a hell of a lot longer to bed in then everyone thought.
How long we talking about? A season, two?? Look what maguire did at Wigan. A failing squad and then he turned up and streight away, a challenge cup and the league title. Don't forget were paying as much as Wigan for our players and look what our new coach is serving up.
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29816 Location: West Yorkshire
Sandra The Terrorist wrote:Call it as you will, success doesn't happen over night, I'd allude to Hull's lack of titles but it's a little more complex than that as I shall illustrate in my next missive.
The point is very simple. 2 titles up for grabs each season, maybe 3 if you count the hubcap. You've got two types of team therefore, title-holders and others. The second group will all say they're in a transitional phase and building for the future. They're not going to admit they're stuck in pointless mid table mediocrity or simply trying to avoid losing their franchise forever, are they? If they were once successful, like Bradford, they might put original spin on it and use "rebuilding", but we are where we are until there's any evidence to the contrary. There's not much evidence about, frankly. You may as well have put "we'll only get better". Silly.
Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
Hessle rover wrote:I don't listen to anyone who finds that mediocre rugby acceptable, when we are paying close to the cap. More fool you!!
Within a cap system, money does not equal success. I do not find our current league position acceptable, but I do think that we need to build in a sustainable way towards being a viable club.
Let me repeat,
Neil Hudgell has employed Craig Sandercock to move us toward a future of Hull Kingston Rovers being a self sustaining business.
Almost twenty years in the wilderness, we nearly died.
We're a middle echelon Super League club, Sandercock has a pedigree of producing youth, he has no pedigree as a head coach. Let me remind you, he turned Uate from a raw player with huge frailties into arguably the best winger in World rugby.
Hull Kingston Rovers is a middling club that we support and love, we had some success in the nineteen twenties and every now and again, every couple of decades from there.
This might lead to nowhere, but Hudgell is looking to secure this clubs future, in the top division, and hopefully with some success.
Too much to ask for a little faith?
Not for me.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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