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cod'ead wrote:Cameron certainly seemed to be struggling to answer the special question this afternoon, even with all his cronies obviously clearing their diaries to sit next to him - strangely no LibDem cabinet ministers were there though.
If Cameron hasn't learned by now that he'll never better Dennis Skinner in a war of words, then he really is incompetent
Was pointed out afterwards that Dave was pretty out of order dealing with Dennis, being ageist etc. I'm sure Skinner can fit his own corner, but for a PM to do that is a bit poor.
I don't agree with his politics anyway but Cameron is a shabby leader, a terrible public speaker and a poor PM
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Chris28 wrote:Was pointed out afterwards that Dave was pretty out of order dealing with Dennis, being ageist etc. I'm sure Skinner can fit his own corner, but for a PM to do that is a bit poor.
I don't agree with his politics anyway but Cameron is a shabby leader, a terrible public speaker and a poor PM
It's not the first time he's tried the age line with Skinner, it's not that long ago he called him a dinosaur. As one tweeter pointed out Dennis Skinner has been an MP longer than Gideon has been alive. All it shows is Cameron reverting to type, a typical Flashman.
Have we only got another three years of this sideshow? If it wasn't for the carnage they're wreaking on the country, it'd be the best entertainment in years
Chris28 wrote:Was pointed out afterwards that Dave was pretty out of order dealing with Dennis, being ageist etc. I'm sure Skinner can fit his own corner, but for a PM to do that is a bit poor.
I don't agree with his politics anyway but Cameron is a shabby leader, a terrible public speaker and a poor PM
It's not the first time he's tried the age line with Skinner, it's not that long ago he called him a dinosaur. As one tweeter pointed out Dennis Skinner has been an MP longer than Gideon has been alive. All it shows is Cameron reverting to type, a typical Flashman.
Have we only got another three years of this sideshow? If it wasn't for the carnage they're wreaking on the country, it'd be the best entertainment in years
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Even-handed & fair?
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
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cod'ead wrote:It's not the first time he's tried the age line with Skinner, it's not that long ago he called him a dinosaur. As one tweeter pointed out Dennis Skinner has been an MP longer than Gideon has been alive. All it shows is Cameron reverting to type, a typical Flashman. ..
Here's Cameron's bollocking:
Quote:Toby Perkins (Chesterfield) (Lab): On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. In the Prime Minister’s statement earlier today, he refused—not for the first time—to answer a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Bolsover (Mr Skinner) on account of his age. That sort of discrimination would not be accepted against black or female Members, so I have no idea why this House has tolerated, on numerous occasions, Members at the Dispatch Box refusing to answer my hon. Friend’s questions. Will you—or, indeed, Mr Speaker—say what action can be taken? I ask not on behalf of my hon. Friend, who can stick up for himself, but on behalf of every person in my constituency who gets discriminated against because of their age, and sees the Prime Minister do exactly that. This House should be above that. What action can be taken to make sure that today is the last time we have to see this disgusting spectacle?
Mr Deputy Speaker: There is no place in this Chamber for racism, ageism, gender discrimination—I could go on. That is about respect to all Members. The point has quite rightly been put on the record; I hope that people will take on board what I have said, and what the hon. Member for Chesterfield (Toby Perkins) has stated. Dennis Skinner is a long-serving Member of this House, and like all other Members, he should be treated with respect.
Will Cameron acknowledge his patronising gaffe? Don't hold your breath. Mind you, I don't know what's worse, the ageist sentiment behind his "wit", or the apparent fact that he thought answering a question by advising Skinner to take his pension was somehow amusing.
cod'ead wrote:It's not the first time he's tried the age line with Skinner, it's not that long ago he called him a dinosaur. As one tweeter pointed out Dennis Skinner has been an MP longer than Gideon has been alive. All it shows is Cameron reverting to type, a typical Flashman. ..
Here's Cameron's bollocking:
Quote:Toby Perkins (Chesterfield) (Lab): On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. In the Prime Minister’s statement earlier today, he refused—not for the first time—to answer a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Bolsover (Mr Skinner) on account of his age. That sort of discrimination would not be accepted against black or female Members, so I have no idea why this House has tolerated, on numerous occasions, Members at the Dispatch Box refusing to answer my hon. Friend’s questions. Will you—or, indeed, Mr Speaker—say what action can be taken? I ask not on behalf of my hon. Friend, who can stick up for himself, but on behalf of every person in my constituency who gets discriminated against because of their age, and sees the Prime Minister do exactly that. This House should be above that. What action can be taken to make sure that today is the last time we have to see this disgusting spectacle?
Mr Deputy Speaker: There is no place in this Chamber for racism, ageism, gender discrimination—I could go on. That is about respect to all Members. The point has quite rightly been put on the record; I hope that people will take on board what I have said, and what the hon. Member for Chesterfield (Toby Perkins) has stated. Dennis Skinner is a long-serving Member of this House, and like all other Members, he should be treated with respect.
Will Cameron acknowledge his patronising gaffe? Don't hold your breath. Mind you, I don't know what's worse, the ageist sentiment behind his "wit", or the apparent fact that he thought answering a question by advising Skinner to take his pension was somehow amusing.
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Clever move by the Labout MP. Older voters win elections and the Tory vote is larely amongst the older generation. Cameron is now portrayed as their enemy.
What is really worrying is that "Calamity Cameron" has the final say on shooting things out of the sky during the Olpmpic Games. I recommend no one uses an aeroplane during the games or, for the Northerners amonst us, suggest they do not release their racing pigeons South of London.
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Dally wrote:Clever move by the Labout MP. Older voters win elections and the Tory vote is larely amongst the older generation. Cameron is now portrayed as their enemy.
What is really worrying is that "Calamity Cameron" has the final say on shooting things out of the sky during the Olpmpic Games. I recommend no one uses an aeroplane during the games or, for the Northerners amonst us, suggest they do not release their racing pigeons South of London.
Technically not quite true, he cannot order the military to shoot anything or anyone, anywhere. He can merely authorise the military to do certain things, such as shoot a plane out of the sky.
You wouldn't want to be flying back home from your holidays over or into London during the period of The Olympics though would you, not with the posh boys in control, I wouldn't trust them to help me across the road.
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