Joined: Oct 19 2003 Posts: 17898 Location: Packed like sardines, in a tin
The complete confusion over who is dealing with the whole Hunt issue gives more credence to the view that the country has been handed over to sixth formers. Leveson is being used as a smokescreen to avoid them having to investigate. It's a clear ministerial issue that overrides Leveson and they know it. I suspect as Dally says, they don't want to look at Hunt too closely in case the whole background is revealed.
Joined: May 25 2002 Posts: 37704 Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
I wonder if an FoI request could reveal just how substantial the bung was that Adam Smith received to take the flak?
It's also worth noting that it took Hunt over 24 hours to agree to release e-mails & texts between he and Smith, plenty of time for some textual cleansing
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
Mintball wrote:Murdoch is not alone in culpability, but he bears a large degree of responsibility for the dumbing down of public discourse in this country.
I recollect he went through all this bollox over Liam Fox, it's just another example of a poor picker of men seeking to justify his original decision. The bloke (Cameron) is sheer bloody incompetence and sheer bloody mindedness personified.
I recollect he went through all this bollox over Liam Fox, it's just another example of a poor picker of men seeking to justify his original decision. The bloke (Cameron) is sheer bloody incompetence and sheer bloody mindedness personified.
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
Glad to know the 94 quid a week I'm giving up is going to worthy people via the tax system
I feel better knowing we're all in this together and IDS isn't running away and will look after those of us in difficulty.
A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself.
When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life.
Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away.
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan
....and to think there were some people who didn't believe me when I told them this was happening, some of them my own family, saying they can't take your benefit away, what will you live on, they have to give you something. Well it is really happening......starting tomorrow. Just how much lower can this government go?
Hull White Star wrote:Glad to know the 94 quid a week I'm giving up is going to worthy people via the tax system
I feel better knowing we're all in this together and IDS isn't running away and will look after those of us in difficulty.
He isn't running and Chris Grayling isn't running with him. In fact they're not running they're fooking sprinting.
....and to think there were some people who didn't believe me when I told them this was happening, some of them my own family, saying they can't take your benefit away, what will you live on, they have to give you something. Well it is really happening......starting tomorrow. Just how much lower can this government go?
A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself.
When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life.
Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away.
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan
Joined: May 25 2002 Posts: 37704 Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
From Steph's link, this speaks volumes:
When I wake up tomorrow morning I shall still be unwell, I shall still be unemployed, and I shall still be struggling with the myriad problems that chronic ill health brings.
Tomorrow I will simply become a small piece of collateral damage in the government's drive to reform welfare spending.
No doubt one of the resident mini neo-liberals will be along soon to tell us the author is not in "the real world"
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
I recollect he went through all this bollox over Liam Fox, it's just another example of a poor picker of men seeking to justify his original decision. The bloke (Cameron) is sheer bloody incompetence and sheer bloody mindedness personified.
You have to wonder whether he dare let Hunt resign. At the moment Hunt is taking the flak for the Tories' previous pro Murdoch stance. Cameron hob-nobbing with Rupert and James, horse riding with Rebeckah, discussing informally the bid for total ownership of BskyB, among themselves. Presumably Hunt was just reflecting the zeigeist of the regime. How was he (or the rest for that matter) to know that 6 months down the line Murdoch's chickens would come home to roost with a vengence. Whilst in opposition and in the early days of his government, Murdoch was saying jump and Cameron & co were saying "how high?" The sooner Murdoch is eliminated from a position of power and influence on our politics the better. The last lot kow-towed to him and for all we know took us into Iraq on his say so. "I've never asked for favours from any government" he didn't need to ask!!
I recollect he went through all this bollox over Liam Fox, it's just another example of a poor picker of men seeking to justify his original decision. The bloke (Cameron) is sheer bloody incompetence and sheer bloody mindedness personified.
You have to wonder whether he dare let Hunt resign. At the moment Hunt is taking the flak for the Tories' previous pro Murdoch stance. Cameron hob-nobbing with Rupert and James, horse riding with Rebeckah, discussing informally the bid for total ownership of BskyB, among themselves. Presumably Hunt was just reflecting the zeigeist of the regime. How was he (or the rest for that matter) to know that 6 months down the line Murdoch's chickens would come home to roost with a vengence. Whilst in opposition and in the early days of his government, Murdoch was saying jump and Cameron & co were saying "how high?" The sooner Murdoch is eliminated from a position of power and influence on our politics the better. The last lot kow-towed to him and for all we know took us into Iraq on his say so. "I've never asked for favours from any government" he didn't need to ask!!
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he didn't need to ask!!
