Sheldon wrote:Of course it does, they have educated people with great networks running it.
Yes it does but, can you remember a few years ago and the quote from Will Carling on rugby union,? "If the game is run properly as a professional game, you do not need 57 old farts running rugby." Afterwards they had a complete clearout at the top with a more dynamic type of personell taking over who changed the way the game was run, perhaps the game of rugby league would benifit from such a change at the top.
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Kosh wrote:Expansion isn't being targeted for the lols - it's being targeted as the only viable method of growing the game and thereby increasing income. A game played only along the M62 corridor is less attractive to sponsors and TV companies. There's also little evidence that the RFL is actually ignoring 'heartlands' teams or offering them less assistance than 'expansion' teams, with the exception of a few tweaks to the quota rules.
The RFL already loaned Bradford a hefty sum to bail them out of what they were assured was a temporary cash flow problem. Guess what? It wasn't temporary. They then bought the lease to Odsal to help them out again, and STILL Bradford's board couldn't make the books balance. What else were they supposed to do? Falling crowds at Odsal and their BOD's serial failure to spend within their means has nothing at all to do with 'chasing expansion'.
I'd agree with that. Crusaders was a disaster, but I imagine in was inspired to some extent by the promising start Catalans had made and continue to build on. On the International game, I understand the comparisons with RU, but the diverging histories of the two codes mean that they are only valid up to a point. In some ways I'd even consider de-coupling more from the Aussies, as it'd give us some flexibility in adapting our competition to suit our needs. Personally I think SL has to come before international game, looking to association football in this country/continent as our example, rather than RU or cricket, in that one area.
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Seventies red wrote:Yes it does but, can you remember a few years ago and the quote from Will Carling on rugby union,? "If the game is run properly as a professional game, you do not need 57 old farts running rugby." Afterwards they had a complete clearout at the top with a more dynamic type of personell taking over who changed the way the game was run, perhaps the game of rugby league would benifit from such a change at the top.
It's been an appalling mess these last few years though.
If Bradford do fail, or even if they don't (which of course I hope is the case), then there needs to be a debate. 3 clubs in administration in 2 seasons would be worrying.
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Mild Rover wrote:It's been an appalling mess these last few years though.
If Bradford do fail, or even if they don't (which of course I hope is the case), then there needs to be a debate. 3 clubs in administration in 2 seasons would be worrying.
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Mild Rover wrote:If Bradford do fail, or even if they don't (which of course I hope is the case), then there needs to be a debate. 3 clubs in administration in 2 seasons would be worrying.
Coincidentally the 2 seasons following removal of the 50% rule...
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Kosh wrote:Coincidentally the 2 seasons following removal of the 50% rule...
Was their a press release why it was removed Kosh?
I can't remember or find any.
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Mild Rover wrote:I'd agree with that. Crusaders was a disaster, but I imagine in was inspired to some extent by the promising start Catalans had made and continue to build on. On the International game, I understand the comparisons with RU, but the diverging histories of the two codes mean that they are only valid up to a point. In some ways I'd even consider de-coupling more from the Aussies, as it'd give us some flexibility in adapting our competition to suit our needs. Personally I think SL has to come before international game, looking to association football in this country/continent as our example, rather than RU or cricket, in that one area.
Crusaders were a slow-motion car crash largely due to the RFL failing to heed warnings about their original owner. I agree that over-confidence following the success of Catalan may have played a part, although the two clubs weren't particularly comparable.
I'd say that SL and the international game have to have parallel development rather than one being prioritised. We aren't ever going to have the domestic fan base to model ourselves on soccer and therefore - like RU and Cricket - need a viable International game to add to the sport's commercial attractiveness. IMO of course.
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Kosh wrote:Coincidentally the 2 seasons following removal of the 50% rule...
It's been gone longer than that, hasn't it?
I don't ever recall it being an issue for us. Binned off after the Wigan farago, possibly?
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Sheldon wrote:Was their a press release why it was removed Kosh?
I can't remember or find any.
Not that I can recall. I remember it came out of a meeting with the clubs but not what specific reasons were given.
I suspect that one or two of the larger clubs were feeling the pinch commercially and rather than tighten their belts convinced everyone to remove the 'constraint' on spending.
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Kosh wrote:Crusaders were a slow-motion car crash largely due to the RFL failing to heed warnings about their original owner. I agree that over-confidence following the success of Catalan may have played a part, although the two clubs weren't particularly comparable.
I'd say that SL and the international game have to have parallel development rather than one being prioritised. We aren't ever going to have the domestic fan base to model ourselves on soccer and therefore - like RU and Cricket - need a viable International game to add to the sport's commercial attractiveness. IMO of course.
In cricket and RU, the international game is the commercial attractiveness and the counties/clubs are the added extra. It isn't a case so much of prioritising, as recognising and playing to our relative strengths. Although the scale is massively different, football, with it's main focus on civic rather than national pride, offers a better comparison, IMO. This is compounded by our not being able to beat Australia and France not being able to beat us. Or any realistic prospect of that changing, barring the odd freak result maybe once a decade. 'Representative' gives more options than 'International'. The Exiles is a decent concept, but so was a Yorks-Lancs origin series, but you need fans to buy into it.
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