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Joined: Aug 03 2009 Posts: 460 Location: Barnoldswick... A long way from Hull!
fun time frankie wrote:you could probably forgive lovegrove for been on that list
Missed tackles cost points. Yes he makes a lot, but if he makes 30 and misses the one that costs us a game winning try.. Obviously everybody misses tackles, but i dont think that making more gives you more of a right to miss them than anyone else. If he's missing them because of fatigue due to the defence he is being asked to do then the coach is partly to blame as well as he shouldnt be playing the full 80 as what is effectively a defensive workhorse if he is missing a lot of tackles. Either give him a break, or give someone else his defensive role for a period of the game to even it up
'Its like the jungle out there, only the strong survive and the weak get killed off and that's whats happened in Hull. They'll run to the end of the season then that's it, they'll be gone, there will be no more Hull Kingston Rovers there's no room for them.'
Comparing last year's team stats to this, is a bit misleading. Given our change from compressed down the middle tactics last year to this years, more spread approach. None the less, we conceded too many soft tries last year and are conceding too many soft tries this year - so neither approach worked/working.
I guess we need to work more on Plan C which should involve looking after possession better and have more control of the games. Under JM we did this very effectively and a lot of the times, we saw games out when we were in winning positions in the second stevo stanza. We ground teams down if you like. Under CS we do look like we're trying to score from every attacking opportunity and force unnecessary plays. Maybe if we adopt JM's favourite "build the frepping pressure" approach, we can get more control during these tight games and hopefully see them out better.
Comparing last year's team stats to this, is a bit misleading. Given our change from compressed down the middle tactics last year to this years, more spread approach. None the less, we conceded too many soft tries last year and are conceding too many soft tries this year - so neither approach worked/working.
I guess we need to work more on Plan C which should involve looking after possession better and have more control of the games. Under JM we did this very effectively and a lot of the times, we saw games out when we were in winning positions in the second stevo stanza. We ground teams down if you like. Under CS we do look like we're trying to score from every attacking opportunity and force unnecessary plays. Maybe if we adopt JM's favourite "build the frepping pressure" approach, we can get more control during these tight games and hopefully see them out better.
You can't win if you can't tackle, I'm pretty sure we were high up in the missed tackles last season too. Maybe our players just have bad tackling technique.
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Joined: Aug 13 2011 Posts: 7194 Location: east east hull
HKR Smithy wrote:Missed tackles cost points. Yes he makes a lot, but if he makes 30 and misses the one that costs us a game winning try.. Obviously everybody misses tackles, but i dont think that making more gives you more of a right to miss them than anyone else. If he's missing them because of fatigue due to the defence he is being asked to do then the coach is partly to blame as well as he shouldnt be playing the full 80 as what is effectively a defensive workhorse if he is missing a lot of tackles. Either give him a break, or give someone else his defensive role for a period of the game to even it up
to be fair lovegrove made as many tackles as 8 members of the team put together if your looking for someone to blame look no further than welham a massive liability he lets in a lot more than he scores
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