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good to see Strauss & Trott getting runs before retiring, sounds heavy going heat wise

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flipper wrote:good to see Strauss & Trott getting runs before retiring, sounds heavy going heat wise

Bell, however... Needs runs. Soon.






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Missed out again - a case for Bopara (fitness permitting) and Patel at 5 and 6 for the First Test?






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Andy Gilder wrote:Missed out again - a case for Bopara (fitness permitting) and Patel at 5 and 6 for the First Test?

Bopara has a side strain and can't bowl, apparently. Is he worth playing as a batsman only? Genuinely undecided on that question, but I'm leaning more towards no than yes.






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John_D wrote:Bopara has a side strain and can't bowl, apparently. Is he worth playing as a batsman only? Genuinely undecided on that question, but I'm leaning more towards no than yes.


If you don't play Bopara as a batsman only, then your options are to either play Bell and pray he discovers which end of the bat to hold somewhere in the next week or to go with Patel at five, Prior at six and an extra bowler.






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Andy Gilder wrote:If you don't play Bopara as a batsman only, then your options are to either play Bell and pray he discovers which end of the bat to hold somewhere in the next week or to go with Patel at five, Prior at six and an extra bowler.

Given the inherent conservatism of the selectors I'd be surprised to see two changes to the top 6 from the Pakistan series, despite Bell's loss of form. What worries me is that we seem to be considering Bopara even though he's sufficiently hampered by injury to be unable to bowl. If he was an established player of proven Test quality it might be more understandable, but he isn't, and surely there's a risk he may not be capable of giving 100% physically while batting and fielding in debilitating heat and humidity? I get the feeling Patel is finally beginning to make the right impression with Flower and will be the best bet.

If we do go with Patel at 5 and Prior at 6 the extra bowler has to be Bresnan, otherwise the tail is just too weak. We can't have five bowlers if three of them are Anderson, Panesar & Finn.

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Prince of Denmark wrote:Given the inherent conservatism of the selectors I'd be surprised to see two changes to the top 6 from the Pakistan series, despite Bell's loss of form. What worries me is that we seem to be considering Bopara even though he's sufficiently hampered by injury to be unable to bowl. If he was an established player of proven Test quality it might be more understandable, but he isn't, and surely there's a risk he may not be capable of giving 100% physically while batting and fielding in debilitating heat and humidity? I get the feeling Patel is finally beginning to make the right impression with Flower and will be the best bet.

If we do go with Patel at 5 and Prior at 6 the extra bowler has to be Bresnan, otherwise the tail is just too weak. We can't have five bowlers if three of them are Anderson, Panesar & Finn.


You're right, a fifth bowler would need to be either Bresnan or Patel, meaning that Broad and Swann continue at 8 and 9 (players like Anderson, Panesar, Finn and Tremlett will only ever be competing for 2 places in the team, even when we only play 4 bowlers).

Just depends on whether they want an extra seamer or spinner. I think they will need to get an extra bowler in though. The fact that Bopara can't bowl could be a blessing, because I think we'll need more than just a handful of overs a day from a 5th bowler.

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