Kind of agree that they do already pay enough. Just cos they are in a profession that earns them a large salary, why should they have to pay more tax compared to your average joe who works in the local super market?? Just cos they earn more can't be anyone's argument that they have to pay more, surely?
What would your argument be that they should have to pay more? Why should an MP/judge/solicitor etc, earning £100k+ a year have to pay twice or three times more tax than your average joe on till at Asda earning £12k a year?? Do they not all work a similar amount of hours? Does the work involved necessitate them paying more?...
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Mike Oxlong wrote:Kind of agree that they do already pay enough. Just cos they are in a profession that earns them a large salary, why should they have to pay more tax compared to your average joe who works in the local super market?? Just cos they earn more can't be anyone's argument that they have to pay more, surely?
What would your argument be that they should have to pay more? Why should an MP/judge/solicitor etc, earning £100k+ a year have to pay twice or three times more tax than your average joe on till at Asda earning £12k a year?? Do they not all work a similar amount of hours? Does the work involved necessitate them paying more?...
So who do you suggest we squeeze for the extra money?
We could raise the tax burden of the poor? - Oh sorry we've already done that by increasing VAT
Or maybe we could simply take the UK's trotal annual expenditure and then divide it by the working population and everyone then pays the same amount. The only problem with that is many will be working simply to pay tax
What is the problem with expecting those who earn more to pay more?
Last Thursday Peter Stringfellow argued that if HIS conservative party had the balls to abolish the 50p rate, he would possibly open more clubs. I can't think of a more compelling argument to keep or increase the top rate
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Mike Oxlong wrote:What would your argument be that they should have to pay more? Why should an MP/judge/solicitor etc, earning £100k+ a year have to pay twice or three times more tax than your average joe on till at Asda earning £12k a year?? Do they not all work a similar amount of hours? Does the work involved necessitate them paying more?...
Well I would have thought the answer is obvious. It's because they can and because the numbers would not stack up if they did not. If someone earns £12,000 at Asda even if they paid 100% income tax that would not pay for their share of the NHS, education, the armed forces, the police, care for their elderly parents, etc, etc. You either have a State and a welfare state or you don't. If you do then someone needs to pay for it. That has to be middle to high earners. It isn't going to be the poorest or the mega-rich. The former can't, the latter have no need to - they could relocate to somewhere warmer and nicer and pay for their own care.
Interesting observation from Titan on his move from supermarket shelf-stacking to professional life. He thinks it's odd that people in better paid jobs get extras as a matter of course - profitable expense claims, regular parties with free drink and food whereas in his lower paid supermarket job there were no extras and they had to pay for the Christmas party. Funny old world isn't it?
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
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cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
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