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 Post subject: Re: Five Planets
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:47 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Five Planets
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:54 pm 
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Thanks. It's the Telegraph's map that has been confusing me - from that it looks the other way round. But, all others and logic dictate Venus as being the bright one on the right.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:05 pm 
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Dally wrote:Just took this:

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Bit of a rough one as they are just above roof height now. Still confused - any ideas?



I like that. Good pic. I had thought that one was Venus but not sure about the other one.






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Venus is supposed to be 10 times brighter .



It's lower in the sky, light pollution and atmospherics will play a large part in it's apparent dullness.






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A bit cloudy tonight :/ :(






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Dally wrote:Thanks. It's the Telegraph's map that has been confusing me - from that it looks the other way round. But, all others and logic dictate Venus as being the bright one on the right.


If you read the Telegraph in that link, "The chart shows the sky at midnight at the start of March.". It's now March 13th! The problem with these infernal planets is they keep moving!

The simple way to always be fully informed, for free:

1. Find your latitude and longitude using a simple resource like
http://www.getlatlon.com/
where you enter your place name, then zoom to your house, and copy you Lat and Long into a document. Please note, your longitude may well have a minus!!

2. Go to the excellent free resource, http://www.heavens-above.com/ and register as a user. Then set up your home co-ordinates as your current observing site (and PS you can set up as many different sies as you want; for example, I always set one up if I'm going away on holiday, then print out the charts and other info i want to take with me)


This gives you a personal sky map for every day, automatically.

You can also look at the Sky Chart, and see why the planets look like they do, from the Earth's perspective, as it shows you whereabouts they are relative to each other in space, in their respective orbits.

Just now, Mars is prominent in the southeast, and Saturn is nice in the south. Jupiter and Venus went to bed hours ago!

The site also gives you an incredible amount of other personalised data, with just a single click. For example, any visible passes of the international space station. Or check out Iridium flares.

Current magnitude (brightness) of Venus is -4.1 and Jupiter -1.9. The bigger the minus, the brighter the object. The scale is logarithmic, and a difference of 5 magnitudes means a brightness difference of exactly 100 times. A difference of one magnitude corresponds to a brightness difference of around 2.51

The brightnesses change a great deal, due to (a) the planet's distance from Earth and (b) their position relative to Earth-Sun. If you picture the Sky Chart, you can see how and why sometimes a planet will be "full face" illuminated as viewed from Earth, and at other times it will be gibbous, or a crescent.
Dally wrote:Thanks. It's the Telegraph's map that has been confusing me - from that it looks the other way round. But, all others and logic dictate Venus as being the bright one on the right.


If you read the Telegraph in that link, "The chart shows the sky at midnight at the start of March.". It's now March 13th! The problem with these infernal planets is they keep moving!

The simple way to always be fully informed, for free:

1. Find your latitude and longitude using a simple resource like
http://www.getlatlon.com/
where you enter your place name, then zoom to your house, and copy you Lat and Long into a document. Please note, your longitude may well have a minus!!

2. Go to the excellent free resource, http://www.heavens-above.com/ and register as a user. Then set up your home co-ordinates as your current observing site (and PS you can set up as many different sies as you want; for example, I always set one up if I'm going away on holiday, then print out the charts and other info i want to take with me)


This gives you a personal sky map for every day, automatically.

You can also look at the Sky Chart, and see why the planets look like they do, from the Earth's perspective, as it shows you whereabouts they are relative to each other in space, in their respective orbits.

Just now, Mars is prominent in the southeast, and Saturn is nice in the south. Jupiter and Venus went to bed hours ago!

The site also gives you an incredible amount of other personalised data, with just a single click. For example, any visible passes of the international space station. Or check out Iridium flares.

Current magnitude (brightness) of Venus is -4.1 and Jupiter -1.9. The bigger the minus, the brighter the object. The scale is logarithmic, and a difference of 5 magnitudes means a brightness difference of exactly 100 times. A difference of one magnitude corresponds to a brightness difference of around 2.51

The brightnesses change a great deal, due to (a) the planet's distance from Earth and (b) their position relative to Earth-Sun. If you picture the Sky Chart, you can see how and why sometimes a planet will be "full face" illuminated as viewed from Earth, and at other times it will be gibbous, or a crescent.






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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:08 pm 
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I was well impressed last night, saw the two planets (above) to the Northwest of LBA at around 8pm, by far the brightest things in the sky, sort of puts all your daily shoite into context doesn't it ?






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It was too cloudy down our way last night. Hoping it may be better tonight. Would love to go somewhere rempte from lights from towns to see them in their full glory along with all the other stars. The only times I can recall seeing the stars in their full glory where on Anglesey many years ago and lying on my back at midnight after a sumptious meal and wine, in the Okavango Delta.

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Well tonight is "closest approach" and it is looking good, if a little hazy, in Bradford at the moment. The pair should be clearly visible in the southwest as soon as it starts to get reasonably dark while Mars, an obvious bright reddish object (especially contratsed with Venus) is at the same time slowly rising in the east, to be followed by Saturn a few hours later.






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Seems cloud is forecast for home tonight. I suppose I'll have to wait and see what it's like when I get there.

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