I think a lot of people underestimate potter's game plans. he may not have the best quality players but when his teams actually execute his game plan they do well. He got it bang on against wakey the other week and did the same tonight. Totally nullified dobson and tired out your big men so there was nothing in the tank for the last 20 minutes
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Jake the Peg wrote:I think a lot of people underestimate potter's game plans. he may not have the best quality players but when his teams actually execute his game plan they do well. He got it bang on against wakey the other week and did the same tonight. Totally nullified dobson and tired out your big men so there was nothing in the tank for the last 20 minutes
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Jake the Peg wrote:I think a lot of people underestimate potter's game plans. he may not have the best quality players but when his teams actually execute his game plan they do well. He got it bang on against wakey the other week and did the same tonight. Totally nullified dobson and tired out your big men so there was nothing in the tank for the last 20 minutes
I like Potter but no.
We shot ourselves in the foot tonight, as the tide started to turn we merely needed to stem the tide, kick well (which we didn't do all night and also gave Jeffries a complete carpet ride, giving him time and space to bisect our wingers and full back) and complete our sets.
After conceding a try at 24-14, our senior players have to, have to, stand up, steady the ship and grind it out. This is not the time for Champagne football, in the end, we allowed Bradford to get a massive roll on and cut us to bits.
Whitehead was fabulous for them, we made Jeffries look a player.
Without Galea our left side is terrible. Centre is the most difficult position to defend but come on Krissy, this isn't good enough. Unfortunately, Latus is not a Super League payer.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
General Zod. wrote:IMO the route problem is the team's lack of patience - they feel like they need to score on every set regardless of the scoreline.
A lot of Bradford's breaks came from errors from our own possession when we were trying to be too fancy when a turn over near the opposition's line would suffice.
The team showed the can be quite devastating when they have their game in order but they need to show more patience and better game-management which is maybe an area of our game where we miss Blake Green.
I agree. I said at the time, we came out blazing and got too cocky. We need to learn when to calm down and just keep the pressure on. I have just watched it back on Sky, and when we were good, we looked very dangerous. At the end of the day, there is no excuse for squandering the lead we had, but we have to give some credit to Bradford, they kept coming for us, when we thought we had the game won. After watching them grow in confidence on Sky the last few weeks, I knew they would be no easy beats; and so I did not get confident with our blistering start, it was the opposite, it worried me. IMO its the last twenty minutes of games that we need to work on, we need to learn to not lose focus and tough it out. I don't agree with some who say we haven't improved under Sandercock, I think we have, after all, he isn't the one out there losing concentration and making mistakes! When we are playing with focus, you can see the differences he has made.
We shot ourselves in the foot tonight, as the tide started to turn we merely needed to stem the tide, kick well (which we didn't do all night and also gave Jeffries a complete carpet ride, giving him time and space to bisect our wingers and full back) and complete our sets.
After conceding a try at 24-14, our senior players have to, have to, stand up, steady the ship and grind it out. This is not the time for Champagne football, in the end, we allowed Bradford to get a massive roll on and cut us to bits.
Whitehead was fabulous for them, we made Jeffries look a player.
Without Galea our left side is terrible. Centre is the most difficult position to defend but come on Krissy, this isn't good enough. Unfortunately, Latus is not a Super League payer.
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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Agree with pretty much all of that.
It was bound to happen at some point squire, give enough monkey's and all that...
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
We shot ourselves in the foot tonight, as the tide started to turn we merely needed to stem the tide, kick well (which we didn't do all night and also gave Jeffries a complete carpet ride, giving him time and space to bisect our wingers and full back) and complete our sets.
After conceding a try at 24-14, our senior players have to, have to, stand up, steady the ship and grind it out. This is not the time for Champagne football, in the end, we allowed Bradford to get a massive roll on and cut us to bits.
Whitehead was fabulous for them, we made Jeffries look a player.
Without Galea our left side is terrible. Centre is the most difficult position to defend but come on Krissy, this isn't good enough. Unfortunately, Latus is not a Super League payer.
All of that happened because of the way bradford were playing. Your kicking game was poor because you have only 1 kicker and bradford made sure he couldn't get a decent kick away. I agree rovers game went to pot but it wasn't just because rovers suddenly stopped playing
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tiger2000 wrote:Sandercock's been fine with the press, comes accross as a quietly spoken articulate man, you might want to get over the bitterness that you arn't the top team in the City anymore before making obviously untrue comments, and if we are a shambles what does that make Hull FC after the past few seasons?.
Wrong pal!!!! Sandercock has one of the worst "suggestive cogitations" (going up at the end of a sentence) ive ever come across, makes him sound simple.
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blakeysrobin wrote:To be fair to Clarkey he was amused when my mate asked him at halftime if his Margin meter had rovers winning by 3 figures after 10 minutes.
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Jake the Peg wrote:All of that happened because of the way bradford were playing. Your kicking game was poor because you have only 1 kicker and bradford made sure he couldn't get a decent kick away. I agree rovers game went to pot but it wasn't just because rovers suddenly stopped playing
There kick pressure was good, but we should have enough intelligence to drop a metre, our kicks were that terrible that losing a metre wouldn't have made a difference.
A worry for me (not a big one at this point, early days) is that things went wrong after twenty minutes of the first half, we scored against the run of play just before half time and should then have reorganised, one of two things then happened, either Sandercock couldn't adapt the game plan to counter Potter or the players are incapable of carrying that out. We had enough senior players on the park at all times and had enough flipping time behind the sticks ffs for someone, anyone to come up with the revolutionary game plan of playing out our sets and getting a decent kick in. That way, at 24-20 even, eight times out of ten we win that game.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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