Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:37 pm
Chris28
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El Barbudo wrote:Maybe those nasty far-right LibDems made him aim at the opposite. Or maybe he's just a lying @rse.
I'd go with the latter tbh, for the very reason Minty said
"paying back favours for friends who have funded certain politicians for some years and just happen to be involved in the private medical sector, and who are licking their lips at the prospect of all that filthy lucre that's going to go into their pockets."
Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:52 pm
Andy Gilder
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Chris28 wrote:I'd go with the latter tbh, for the very reason Minty said
"paying back favours for friends who have funded certain politicians for some years and just happen to be involved in the private medical sector, and who are licking their lips at the prospect of all that filthy lucre that's going to go into their pockets."
You missed off:
"Oiling the wheels for some very lucrative directorships in the private medical sector once their political careers are ended at the ballot box."
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Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:15 pm
McLaren_Field
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sanjunien wrote:great news for the french system then ?
now it can concentrate on looking after it's own maybe ,instead of helping cut the NHS waiting lists ?
No, possibly the opposite actually.
If the reforms go through then under EU tendering rules any EU organisation will be able to bid for our sick and dying - if French hospitals are cheaper you could find more English being treated there than natives.
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Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:40 pm
sanjunien
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McLaren_Field wrote:No, possibly the opposite actually.
If the reforms go through then under EU tendering rules any EU organisation will be able to bid for our sick and dying - if French hospitals are cheaper you could find more English being treated there than natives.
the french people would never agree to that - hope the uk tourists are ready for the channel port blockades etc ?
Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:30 pm
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Mintball wrote:A recent report on cancer care shows that the coalition have, in fact, been telling porkies about the NHS needing to improve because of cancer care – well, either that or they really are clueless on even some basic factoids.
This was IMO the most tasteless part of the propaganda campaign to argue for the Coalition's healthcare reforms. The argument was always "the UK is behind various European and outside countries for cancer survival rates - we HAVE to do something about the NHS, we can't go on like this, we owe it to cancer patients and their relatives". This is an emotive argument because most people have had some form of experience with cancer in their family.
What should have been done then is a concentrated drive on cancer treatment and looking at the countries that have been using more successful cancer treatments and seeing if we can get best practice from them. But instead its a wholesale reorganisation of the whole NHS, including large scale commissioning of services from private providers, that is opposed by doctors! What happened to the part about improving cancer care?
It is just using a completely irrelevant argument which IMO is tasteless.
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Well said sir!
