Joined: Feb 15 2007 Posts: 436 Location: EAST HULL and proud
Like i've said above, i'll meet with anyone to discuss incedents from yesterday.
I was stood with my family, ((inc wife, daughter. father,uncle and niece.) and not with a group of beer fuelled hooligans after trouble.
For 65mins all is well until some MORON decides it's a laugh to throw a HOT pie at peoples heads.
How ironic no one has seen the person throwing missiles ( yet again). Rovers had around 1500 to 2000 fans in that stand and someone knows who theese PILLOCKS are.
I've already stated my actions where out of order but are theese PHANTOM throwers going to be big enough to put their hands up and appolgise (or friends of theese name and shame them??????).
Joined: Aug 31 2010 Posts: 346 Location: warrington
credit to you andy for owning up to some of what went on i would have prob done the same but got to think there was a lot of kids in there would it not have been better to report it to the police
Joined: Feb 15 2007 Posts: 436 Location: EAST HULL and proud
[quote="jaybezz76"]credit to you andy for owning up to some of what went on i would have prob done the same but got to think there was a lot of kids in there would it not have been better to report it to the police[/quote
In hindsight Jay your %100 right. This has happened on several occasions now and yesterday it was the last straw. Once again a good day out has been ruined for FAR to many people and a part of that is down to me. Hope we can put this incedent behind us and ALL involved GROW UP and lets start to support our team together.....
Joined: Aug 31 2010 Posts: 346 Location: warrington
i think the people who are throwing stuff need to be named and banned its going to end up with someone getting really hurt ,like i said credit to u for owning up hope you come back to hj next year but without the trouble.
Joined: Mar 05 2007 Posts: 13190 Location: Hedon (sometimes), sometimes Premier Inn's
jaybezz76 wrote:what is it with your fans fighting between yourselves in the west stand cant you just go to a game without any trouble there was a lot of kids in there think you need to grow up.
The use of the term 'you' implies us all, I can assure you that I was not fighting with anyone and neither were the majority. Perhaps 'you' (singular) should think before you post.
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Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
We've had Humberside Police at away games in the past, pulling people out of queues. Maybe this should happen again.
As is regularly documented, I sent a strongly worded email to Hopeless Smith last year after Leeds away. There were absolutely legless Rovers fans getting ejected and fighting with stewards as I arrived and then more vexed up idiots got chucked out for trying to sneak into the North stand and causing trouble in there.
I firstly got a reply from his PA and then one from him saying they would investigate. Never heard anything again and the whole thing must have got swept under the carpet.
Leeds is CCTV'd up to the eyeballs, these people would be easily identifiable.
All we ever get is the standard response of "Not our responsibility to control people in other clubs grounds" whilst technically that is correct, I do think the club has an overriding responsibility to work with other clubs and share information to weed these vermin out.
All modern stadia have CCTV, I'd be very very surprised if a representative form Rovers couldn't identify the pie thrower.
Andy was clearly out of order, but he has at least admitted this. I can categorically say that I wouldn't have reacted in that way because I'm a massive fanny.
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Joined: Mar 22 2009 Posts: 2397 Location: East Hull
Andy did you get chucked out then? And im sorry but you cant say falcon bus is innocent in this - yes ok you were prevoked; but at least point the finger at the right people, like you said its happened afew seasons now and your friends pointed the finger at the wrong people and look what happened at cas because of it.
Im sure if i was asked to look at cctv i could name the person who had thrown a pie (hopefully) and it could be dealt with; but lets be honest i wont be asked because it wasnt at our ground and will be swept under the carpet- however i will be sending kr an email to say any help needed and i would come along.
Also i would gladly meet you andy so you know my face to say hi too rather then throw a fist in the wrong direction and i would also gladly point out if i saw/see anyone throwing things at you again.
[quote="Adeybull"] so the panel took the same view as your excellent assessment.[/quote]
Joined: Mar 05 2007 Posts: 13190 Location: Hedon (sometimes), sometimes Premier Inn's
There is a world of difference between an idiot getting hammered and looking for trouble and someone losing it it the idiot. If I (or my wife, grandkids who I go with) got a hot pie in the head, I can assure you the thrower would sober up pretty quick.
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Joined: Mar 10 2011 Posts: 1508 Location: Bumblescum, AL
rover49 wrote:There is a world of difference between an idiot getting hammered and looking for trouble and someone losing it it the idiot. If I (or my wife, grandkids who I go with) got a hot pie in the head, I can assure you the thrower would sober up pretty quick.
So what, you'd knock 10 bells out of him/her? What about his/her mates? Them too? Whilst, this is an understandable reaction, it's also part of the big problem. You can't solve the underlining issue through personal retribution. These types of supporters will seek safety in numbers and all what's going to happen is that a big ruck kicks off and brings shame to the name of Hull KR and its supporters. As in yesterday's outcome.
Sadly it's gonna' have to come from the club if it's to sort this problem out. Something I don't really see happening personally. Maybe a fans liaison officer type mingling with supporters @ away games would be a first step to working towards a positive solution for everyone.
Lobbing of beer/food is also happening all too frequently @ some of our away games too. This wouldn't be tolerated @ football, so there's no way this should be tolerated @ rugby. Misbehave @ soccer and you're looking @ 3 yr banning order/court appearance/fines etc. The deterrent for football is massive, at rugby it's nothing. I'm not advocating the introduction of overzealous crowd control that football has, but somewhere there needs to be a message that bad behaviour isn't just brushed under the carpet. Needs stronger leadership from the authorities to tackle this and again that's something I don't see happening any time soon.
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