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 Post subject: Re: Loanees
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:29 pm 
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Paul T - HKR wrote:We will have to beg to disagree about it being short sighted. Whilst I agree with you about using the NL to bring players on, there is a bigger picture to consider.

If anything it is something the club needed to do, bearing in mind the level of investment in the youth program. Okay, recruitment has been quite exceptional these past few years with players like Welham, Watts, Taylor, Cox and Latus coming thro the ranks, and a good splattering of above average juniors at the moment, which suggests a healthy progression.

The club could sit back on its laurels and develop the present crop, put the better ones out to gain NL experience, and see if junior recruitment attracts a similar level of player. But the problem Rovers have had in the SL era is being able to attract juniors to the club. It’s taken since 2007/8 to get to the present stage. Its all well and good saying use the NL to develop players, you have to attract them to the club first.

Winning, achievement and progression are the main selling points. Rovers can now say they are a play-off club at all levels, which for a junior (and his parents) looking for a SL club is a big marker, coupled with a demonstrable pathway of progression to first grade.
But taking everything into account the only other team using the same 'pond' of players have not been putting juniors players into the first team anyway (Something which is probably down to the previous coach more that anything and which many of their fans have complained about) so us getting more local faces into and playing at a SL level would have done as much as being a playoff place at all levels would PLUS we would be less reliant of outside the club for players.






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 Post subject: Re: Loanees
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:02 pm 
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Anakin Skywalker wrote:But taking everything into account the only other team using the same 'pond' of players have not been putting juniors players into the first team anyway (Something which is probably down to the previous coach more that anything and which many of their fans have complained about) so us getting more local faces into and playing at a SL level would have done as much as being a playoff place at all levels would PLUS we would be less reliant of outside the club for players.




In some respects I’m wondering if you are using our exchange as a medium to have a go at Justin Morgan.

All I have commented on is the reason why players weren’t loaned out to NL clubs last season. Whether it was a right decision or not is moot. I like to think the achievement of being a play-off club at all levels will attract players to the club who would otherwise be scouted by Leeds, Wigan, Saints etc. Only time will tell on that one but Sandercock was impressed. As Hudge and Smithy say, the club is moving to the next level, with the promoting of youth under the tutelage of Sandercock the main long term philosophy.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:14 pm 
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Paul T - HKR wrote:In some respects I’m wondering if you are using our exchange as a medium to have a go at Justin Morgan.

All I have commented on is the reason why players weren’t loaned out to NL clubs last season. Whether it was a right decision or not is moot. I like to think the achievement of being a play-off club at all levels will attract players to the club who would otherwise be scouted by Leeds, Wigan, Saints etc. Only time will tell on that one but Sandercock was impressed. As Hudge and Smithy say, the club is moving to the next level, with the promoting of youth under the tutelage of Sandercock the main long term philosophy.
TBH my feelings on JM are well known.
A control freak who ended up with a gameplan that was so regimented that we had no freedom in our play and we were so easy to counteract infact last season it wasn't until it was announced that JM was leaving that some of the shackles came off and we started playing better and scraped a playoff place.
Like I said right at the start it is possible that the reason we didn't let players go out is because JM wouldn't have total control.






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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:58 pm 
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Paul T - HKR wrote:Mild Rover, we will have to wait for the official announcement for the full details, but as far as I know they will travel to Workington for at least one training session a week, the rest of the time with Rovers.

I imagine training over there would be in an evening so it would make sense for the lads to stop over in Workington because of the 6-7hr round trip. Of course, that costs money - who foots the bill?

I said it at the time, forging a partnership with another club so far away could prove to be potentialyy problematic.

http://www.townrlfc.com/article.php?id=7189
Paul T - HKR wrote:Mild Rover, we will have to wait for the official announcement for the full details, but as far as I know they will travel to Workington for at least one training session a week, the rest of the time with Rovers.

I imagine training over there would be in an evening so it would make sense for the lads to stop over in Workington because of the 6-7hr round trip. Of course, that costs money - who foots the bill?

I said it at the time, forging a partnership with another club so far away could prove to be potentialyy problematic.

http://www.townrlfc.com/article.php?id=7189

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:12 pm 
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Hopefully these 3 young lads will get some good competetive game time there. And come back better for it. I wouldn't fancy all the travelling thou. Maybe they can play my new game of 'Rovers Stobart spotting' the kids carnt talk untill they see the Rovers Stobart truck. Get in lol

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