the atmosphere at the HJ is poor, seems to be that a few people start to sing an chant then give up after everyone just doesn't join in, its a persons choice at a match if he wants to sing or not but it will create a muh better atmosphere an maybe a better game every away game i've been to it's been mostly a lot better atmosphere than at home even at crusdaers.

i like the way they take their shoes off when they score a try.

Catalans is not expanionist it is simply inviting a well established team into the SL and should not be considered the same as London. SL is better for Catalans involvement.

The London Broncos are not an experiment, it's an artificially subsidised RFL vanity / folly which for over 30 years in various guises and locations has failed to attact the support base and interest it needs to become viable as a pro top tier RL side. Branson saw that and quickly exited and that was nearly 10 years ago now.

How are London Broncos, who get the same SL TV monies from the RFL as all the other SL clubs, subsidised by the RFL? Or are you suggesting that all SL clubs are subsidised by the RFL? London are subsidised by someone that's for sure - but he's nowt to do with the RFL and, just like the fella who bankrolls the Wire, devoted to his team.

Why do you apply different standards to London compared to those applied to other teams in the league?

Check back on the special dispensations that London have had over the years. One subsidy comes from the revenues generated from live games (i.e away supporters). The subsidy occurs because every single SL side take more fans to London than is reciprocated. An inbalance in gate receipts for starters.

I keep seeing people saying they think lots of good work is going on around London but aren't sure. Here is a very useful website: http://www.londonrl.com/ I've lifted the following headline figures off there, which are from last year so presumably will be even better now: Quote:There are 3000 registered club Rugby League players in London, the South East and East of England. Over 10,000 children played rugby league in school in the region in 2010. 29 London raised players currently represent either Harlequins Rugby League in the Engage Super League or London Skolars in the Co-operative Championship 1. Over 1700 participants played Touch, Tag, Masters or Wheelchair Rugby League in 2010. Over 35% of junior club players in London are from a BME background. 540 volunteers currently support the development of Rugby League in London, the South East and the East of England. 280 teams took part in the Carnegie Champion Schools Competition in 2011, including 74 girls teams.

I keep seeing people saying they think lots of good work is going on around London but aren't sure. Here is a very useful website: http://www.londonrl.com/ I've lifted the following headline figures off there, which are from last year so presumably will be even better now: Quote:There are 3000 registered club Rugby League players in London, the South East and East of England. Over 10,000 children played rugby league in school in the region in 2010. 29 London raised players currently represent either Harlequins Rugby League in the Engage Super League or London Skolars in the Co-operative Championship 1. Over 1700 participants played Touch, Tag, Masters or Wheelchair Rugby League in 2010. Over 35% of junior club players in London are from a BME background. 540 volunteers currently support the development of Rugby League in London, the South East and the East of England. 280 teams took part in the Carnegie Champion Schools Competition in 2011, including 74 girls teams.

When you look at the figures, its obvious that the game seems to be doing well in the south.... It would be great if the Broncos could get a decent following for the majority of their home games.

Good to see them back as the Broncos, hopefully they can push forward and build a decent sized fanbase.

Playing Devils advocat SEB even though we sing from the same hymn sheet on this, playing doesn't equate to watching or having any further interest.
An example being i play badminton and i really enjoy it, but have no desire to watch it or get involved in any other capacity.

That is quite possibly the worst argument I have ever heard.

Based on the "atmosphere" point, how much atmosphere do you expect in one sided games that are pretty much won by half time??

It is not just in RL. In every sport atmosphere can be a big problem, particuarly for the more successful clubs. You go to Anfield or Old Trafford to watch a normal premiership league game and you'll hear a huge roar when the teams come out and within 30 seconds of kick off it is almost a deadly silence.

Some games create atmosphere because they become classic games, wheras other games create atmosphere because of what is at stake such as knock out games (challenge cup, play-offs etc).

You tend to find that once fans get used to success and expect to win games, the atmosphere is never as good, especially in those run of the mill games that you find yourself miles ahead early on.